Ever wondered how balancing travel and clinical work could actually be possible? In this episode, I’m chatting with Tara Wells, who’s figured out how to keep her remote clinical practice running while still finding time to travel. Tara shows us that you don’t have to be a full-time nomad to make it work—you can build a career that lets you help clients while exploring the world.
We dive into how she manages time zones, keeps boundaries with clients, and runs a group practice that offers both virtual and in-person sessions. If you’ve been thinking about balancing travel and clinical work in your own life, Tara’s got some amazing tips and real-life insights to get you started.
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Transcript:
Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the traveling therapist podcast. Really excited today to have Tara Wells here with us. She's got a very cool story. I'm excited to have her share her life and just all of her adventures that she's been through already as a traveling therapist and how she's trying to make it work now in her business and her life.
Kym: So Tara, I always start out with how did you go from being just like your traditional therapist to a traveling therapist?
Tara: love that question because I have, I have a little bit of a budding start that really helped. I got licensed during COVID. So I started remote, have never seen the need to have office space to take up physical space. So I got that little like step stool forward to, to disconnect literally, and my IP address or my VPN be anywhere.
Tara: It was the, a mental transition of me always wanting to travel. I've been, I'm a lifelong traveler and never really considered when I got into the industry, how to combine those. And then now the nature of my clients don't mind if, as long as I'm in a time zone where I can make it make sense, then why not?
Tara: So the transition was much more of a idealistic one. And now as of last year and this year becoming my practice.
Kym: yeah. That's so cool. So tell us a cool fact. Before we hit record, you said your first travel experience was when? How old were you?
Tara: I was three months old, I was born in Washington, DC, and then my family up, and we moved to Ireland. It wasn't a trip. We moved to
Kym: Oh, you moved there. Oh my gosh. Wow.
Tara: So I've had a passport since I was born. My mom was telling the story about how her hands, her fingers are in my passport photo because I couldn't lift my head.
Tara: I was falling asleep during my passport photo. Which we frowned upon today, but that's yeah, that's my, my really fun fact of my first flight was to Ireland.
Kym: That's amazing. How long did you live in Ireland?
Tara: For a year.
Kym: Oh, cool. Okay. That's, that's really neat. So your family, were they like, like nomadic or was it like a military thing? Or like, why, why did
Tara: It was an aviation thing. My, yeah, my father was in aviation, so he was working at Shannon Airport at the time.
Kym: That's so cool. Neat. Neat, neat, neat. So, okay. So you were fully remote from the get go, which is really cool. Like you didn't have to worry about that transition. Like a lot of us did trying to figure that part out. Oh my gosh. Luckily I did it before COVID, but. Yeah. Yeah. It was still such a shit show, you know, if I'm being blunt
Tara: Yeah, no, I'm very grateful amongst all of the muck of COVID. Very grateful that that kind of set me up on this trajectory.
Kym: Yeah. So also before we hit record, you were kind of talking about, you know, I always like to ask people before we start, like wherever you travel to, like, what are you doing? And you were saying that you, you've actually tried like the traveling therapist thing a few times and it hasn't been like your favorite thing.
Kym: So I would love to talk about that a little bit because You know, people don't talk about that as much as always like, Oh, it's so fun. I love it. But let's hear your side of that. Like, like what, what did you do and what didn't you like about it and all of that?
Tara: My balancing act with traveling and working, I love a working vacation domestically. I think it makes a lot of sense for me to change the backdrop of the window right next to my office. When it comes to international travel, which I'm very, very big on when it comes to changing time zones, it gets tricky, even like if I'm going one time zone away, something gets messed up.
Tara: Kim and it's so annoying. It's so frustrating. No matter how many times we practice it and practice the clocks, I don't know why it's so challenging. I swear I'm a smart person. And then all of a sudden that one sends me for a loop.
Kym: I hear you. And that's what prompted me. I mean, I'm going to do a little plug here, right? The portable practice method is my new traveling therapist courses coming out in like two weeks. So probably by the time this airs, it'll probably already be out, but. That's the number one thing I did this huge survey.
Kym: Like I interviewed, you know, traveling, like potential traveling therapist and what held them back and it kept coming up like the time zone management, like just trying to manage that schedule thing. So I actually made this AI tool. Like it's called the traveling therapist time zone tool. I made it with chat GPT.
Kym: Like I made a bet on the backend. I made a GPT and it like manages time zones perfectly for therapists. This thing is amazing. But you just really, you put it in where you're sitting, where your clients are sitting and tell it to create the perfect schedule for you.
Kym: And it just does magic. It's like really cool. So I'm glad you brought that up.
Tara: Oh, thank you for your service. That's amazing.
Kym: I was like, I've got to fix this because it's just, yeah, I have the same problem, even if it's just like central versus. Eastern, you know, like even parts of Florida or central time zone. If you go a little bit north, northwest, it's like, Oh my God, did the time just change?
Kym: Yeah. Yeah.
Tara: exactly. Exactly.
Kym: get it.
Tara: my philosophy is travel is what makes my life worth living and therapy is my work. It's my career. I like it a lot. Sports, social work. I love it a lot. But sometimes it is work, sometimes it gets in the way of me being in Denver, Colorado, or in Mexico City, or, you know, in Toronto, it gets in the way of like me experiencing where I am, and that's no one's fault.
Tara: It's I adore my clients with or without that barrier. It's a matter of navigating around that. So I think my balance. And again, this is a year of me trial and error checking on me and in six months time and 12 months time. I think being a traveling therapist for me coincides with also me being a part time therapist when I'm traveling.
Tara: I am not at a point in my career where I can really take a ton of time off consistently. I am taking a lot of time off for the first time. Ever, and I'm very excited about that,
Kym: good.
Tara: but this was potentially a once in a, I won't say a lifetime or career. This will be happening again, but maybe every 5 years, I'm not going to be able to take a month off again next year.
Tara: Nor do I really want to, like, this is really going to be a special time for me. And of course, we can get into that if there's room for it, but taking traveling and being part time being selective about my clients who are doing really well and don't need to see me. Weekly or even biweekly, we can condense it to 1 session while I'm away, or we can do the, the check in method and see how things are going.
Tara: Because text time zones don't necessarily matter.
Kym: Yeah. That's true. And, and I'm so glad you said that because I was just going to ask you like, how are you going to manage that taking a whole month? You know? I mean for me, for example, like I used to have really high acuity clients. Like I was, you know, I'm trained in EMDR and I used to, and, and I'm a substance abuse certified substance abuse counselor and all of that.
Kym: So I used to like really see these high intensity clients, but I quickly learned, you know, as. like a traveling therapist. Like I didn't want to carry that heavy of a caseload anymore. I just couldn't, it was like too exhausting, like trying to do all of it at the same time. So I would, I would just love to hear like your methodology, like your trial and error around, okay, how do I, you know, how am I going to do that?
Kym: So I've got these clients I'm going to see every week or maybe other every other week, how am I going to move them out to a month? Like, what am I going to do to like mitigate that?
Tara: definitely. My approach is very collaborative with my clients. Treatment is collaborative. It's an agreement. It's a contract because I don't have high acuity. So I don't have to present safety contracts or things like that to my to my folks. So, with the collaboration of me saying. Hey, I'm going to Mexico City, which is my favorite destination, or I'm going to be domestic.
Tara: I'm going to be on the same time zone, but I'm going to be traveling. I'm still working. Let's make sure this works. But also me introducing. By modeling what my boundaries are to. I always love to tell my clients because some of them get worried about this. Like, if you're seeing me, you're doing okay.
Kym: Yeah.
Tara: being virtual me being virtual means that you're doing like, you'll be okay. Like, I am here. I'm not firing you. We're good, but I won't be as connected. And that's good for all of us. This is again, I'll use the word modeling again. This is me, like, putting to practice what it's like for me to be a human for the 1st time ever as well.
Tara: This is the 1st time I'm doing life. So practicing this, seeing the flexibility and the fluidity of it being very gracious with my clients. My gratitude is out off, like, off the charts of them being able to offer me that flexibility. So. Again, it's collaborative. My specialty, since that might be relevant is sports social work.
Tara: So I see mostly athletes and then outside of my athlete realm, because I started in private practice seeing. Anybody who was finding my number, you know, I see a lot of anxiety and adult women with ADHD and a little bit of trauma work as well. So, when I do trauma, I'm not practicing. It's mostly narrative style therapy.
Tara: Getting connected with coping skills, learning the why's of why do I think this way? Why do I process this way? And, you know, the power of your story. So those are low acuity. They're, they're not in crisis. I'm
Kym: Yeah.
Tara: I'm not really monitoring day by day. So I am very fortunate that that affords me the ability to get on a plane or get in my car.
Kym: So are we talking like college athletes or like, any age really?
Tara: Any age, my practice is open from my youngest right now is 11 and 11 is like cutting it just because it's talk therapy style and it's virtual, keeping that connection and that concentration. Um, And then I have clients who are going for the champion store and golf. So, yeah, whole lifespan of athletes, but I would say my, my bread and butter is probably teens and young adults.
Tara: Love egos, love the attitude of teenagers. It's my favorite. So that's my sweet spot.
Kym: Oh, my God. I have, like, so much respect for people that can see teenagers. So you kind of alluded to, you've got this month thing coming up. You said, maybe we'll talk about it. Is it something like you want to share? Like that maybe other therapists might be inspired
Tara: Oh, of course.
Kym: talk about it. Yeah.
Tara: gosh. My one of my journal questions in my little booklet is what's a question you love answering and it's where are you going next? And what's your next tattoo? Because I also collect tattoos.
Kym: I love that.
Tara: So, yes, I would love to because I've been, I finally finished booking the last thing that I needed.
Kym: Oh,
Tara: I, one of my best friends is doing his PhD research in South India, in Mysore, India. So India was never really on my radar growing up. My heritage is Indian as well, so it's kind of, it's a little surprising, but I, i, it came across that I could visit him. I could spend some time there and I'm like, let's do it.
Tara: Like, otherwise, it's not on my radar. It's not a, a country. I would personally be inspired to check off my list. But if I have someone who knows the areas and touch with it, like, let's do it. So when I visit him, his bucket list trip is to Vietnam. So I'm going to see him for 5 days. Then we're trekking to Vietnam.
Tara: Specifically Hanoi and the bays up there. We're going to do one of those, like, really scenic cruises.
Kym: Oh, my gosh.
Tara: I'm taking my behind to Thailand by myself for nine days. So
Kym: Oh, my gosh.
Tara: I'm very excited.
Kym: Oh, that's going to be great. Oh, my gosh. You'll have to come back and tell us how it all went and everything, especially if you saw some clients along the way, you know?
Tara: I, I, right now I'm in the point of telling all of my clients. Some of them have been like, there were whispers maybe a month ago of like, what I was planning on doing. But now it's like, by the way, if I see you monthly, like, let's get this planned or I see you by weekly. We've got a couple of sessions before I'm out.
Tara: I over winter break, so to speak, so the Christmas and New Year's time I was. out of touch. I was completely disconnected. And so I told them comparing to that trip, I will be more connected than I was for the holidays. So I'll be on call, so to speak, but not on your timeline.
Kym: Yeah. Oh, I love that. great.
Tara: Yeah. You'll be awake. I'll be asleep. So if we need to get creative about how I see you, we'll get creative, but you're going to have to give me a couple of business days to get it acclimated to that.
Kym: That's great. Has everybody been like, super cool with it if they're like, yeah. Got it. We could. We, we've got this. I could do this. It's, it's good.
Tara: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Especially there's a good chance. My theory is there's a good chance that my clients will feel better knowing that there is an on call type situation as opposed to I have to hold on to this for 3 weeks while or 2 weeks while Tara is away. So, this feels more organic to me as well.
Tara: I don't. Love being someone who works with people who disconnects from them from time to time. I don't know why that feels so inorganic to me. I am a whole person with and without my profession, but I think maybe a lot of us can can connect with this is it doesn't just feel like job career profession.
Tara: It's very much like I'm never not a social worker.
Kym: Yes. Oh, yes.
Tara: still an aspect of that that's very much rooted in who I am, how I am, how I present and just because I get paid to show up in a way doesn't mean I wouldn't have shown up anyway. That way.
Kym: That makes perfect sense. . So how far out would you say, would you recommend, since you've done this before, like telling your clients or starting to prepare them, you know, because you know, I feel like there needs to be like, I don't know. I mean, I don't know what the timeline is a couple weeks, a couple months, like, Hey, it's December.
Kym: I'm leaving in May. Like, is it like, how far out do you feel like is a good timeline to get your clients prepared?
Tara: That's a really good question. I, I wish I had, like, a harder rule or guideline for how some people knew a month ago. And then this is the 1st week. I'm really making sure I tell people. There are a couple I have a couple of clients who are on the spectrum and so I'm being very, very mindful with I think I'm being the most mindful with them because it's very disruptive to their structure.
Tara: and one of them is under 18, so I'm working with their parent very closely on how so the parent knows and then they're helping to to bring in the information when they believe it'll be the most supportive
Kym: Mm hmm.
Tara: and they have support. They have everything they need, so I'm not too worried, but Maybe I got lucky because it's a mid February trip is when I'm starting.
Tara: So this is like, the week where I'm hunkering down to let people know what's happening.
Tara: Where people fall through the cracks Kim is when they cancel or reschedule and now we've got, like, another week lost where I'm like, oh, shoot.
Kym: you've got anything important to talk about, let's do it now.
Tara: exactly.
Kym: Yeah.
Tara: But it's, it's a good whenever that that session of reviewing coping skills and resources, that's the organic time to really touch on that. It's when I go and there's, I would argue, there isn't a bad time to kind of bring up. As an intervention, if I'm not in our scheduled session, especially if you're someone who likes recurring sessions, I'm not here.
Tara: What do you do to regulate when you don't have our Thursday morning to touch base about what's going on in the week or how things are working or not working? What would you what's going on? What's what's your system? What's your plan? So that's maybe if someone's so inspired, that's a really good Warm up for if someone is planning a trip or someone is looking to be a traveling therapist or just travel without being a therapist on their travels, how that can come in.
Tara: That could be a really helpful intervention. Perhaps.
Kym: Yeah, I love that so much because you know, I do run into like in my private coaching and stuff, you know, people that want to be traveling therapist and they're, they're always worried like, okay, what if I take the time off and then the client realizes they don't need me and then I lose my entire caseload.
Kym: Like it's this whole spiral, you know, and I'm always like, I mean, more clients will come, it will be okay. And if it happens that way, it just feels like, you know, maybe it was supposed to, you know, but, but a lot of people really stress out about that. Like, I can't take, I can't skip like three weeks with a client.
Kym: It's going to be a disaster, you know? So I, I like that we're talking about this and just kind of giving it some, like, it's okay, you know?
Tara: yeah, 1 of my favorite, I don't know if it was a peer or a mentor who told me this, but 1 of my favorite lessons was our clients aren't that fragile. They're not that fragile. I've worked with childhood trauma. I've worked in child welfare where people are that are extra like, cautious, careful, and now I worked with teenagers.
Tara: So there may be like, the grit of teenagers is something that bottle that sell it. I'm buying, but that was what someone told me is like, if I'm going in with some knowledge and some background about what's going on with this kid. And I want to sit there and like, really like take my time. Did it that kid may have, that may not be in the room with them when I'm sitting with them.
Kym: Right.
Tara: And maybe that's one reason I like working with, with teams so much is that I can really poke at it.
Tara: I can really like get in there and teach them those, teach them those skills by like testing their boundaries in a really proactive, but productive way
Kym: Yeah.
Tara: of like, well, let's talk about it. And they're like, we don't, honestly, we don't need to like dope. That's great.
Kym: love that. Yeah. I mean, I, I feel like I got a similar lesson too, at some point where it was like, okay, you're not like God, you're not like the end all and be all for these people. Like they were totally fine before you, they'll be totally fine after you, they'd be totally fine. And they went to a different therapist.
Kym: Like it's fine. You know?
Tara: I would be so silly to think that I was the ideal therapist for everyone in my
Kym: exactly.
Tara: That would be such a silly thought.
Kym: No, I, I love that. Just like, okay, let's, let's just like look at reality here. It's like totally fine. Probably, I mean, unless they're of course, suicidal or something like that. And then we'd wanna plan for that, right? Maybe have another therapist that we know that could pick up and take over if a crisis happened or something like that.
Kym: Make sure they have, you know, the, the, all the crisis information that they need to get help. And, and of course you're gonna be on call anyway, you know, if somebody needs something, so.
Tara: I have my my vacation responder on my email. I also maybe this is helpful. I have a group practice that sees people virtually and in person near me geographically. So, they're, they have openings, and I feel very confident in referring if someone was like, Alright, Tara, you're not available till tomorrow because, you know, it's whatever time where you are.
Tara: I'm gonna just go ahead and call them and see if I can get in sooner. Totally fine by me.
Kym: Yeah, love that. Love that message so much. I hope you guys listening hear that because that really is something that comes up a lot, you know, it's like,
Tara: Oh, do your
Kym: I yeah, exactly Exactly have have some people you could fall back on especially it alone solo private practice telehealth Traveling have just some backups already that you know, yeah for real and that's a good referral source, too You know if you if you establish those relationships with people, I think So tell us what else you're doing because not only are you doing this practice, you've also got this other thing you're working on. So I'd love to talk about that and how it came to be and, and what you're doing. Because part of what we do talk about on this podcast a lot, especially for traveling therapists and in the portable practice method is I've got a whole module on other like income streams, you know, away from that one to one client work.
Kym: So I'd love to talk about that. This thing you have going on and share with the listeners, like how it came about and what you're doing.
Tara: Definitely, definitely. Yeah, so I have what's called a mastermind that I started in October of last year. So it's still my little baby toddler
Kym: Yeah.
Tara: and essentially a mastermind for people who may have never heard that term before it's a group collaborative. It's exchanging of ideas. Bringing up problems to request solutions from like minded folks.
Tara: So I have been a part of masterminds that are entrepreneurial in nature. So they're for business owners. They're for entrepreneurs, mostly women who are trying to get their business off the ground or get out of a couple of issues or rough spots, rough patches with their business. So marketing comes up a lot, how to find a good accountant, how to deal with social media marketing is always one that comes up time after time.
Tara: Thanks. So I decided that, well, I've heard rumor is therapists are notoriously bad business owners for whatever reason.
Kym: don't think that's a rumor.
Tara: I heard the rumor I attached myself to it and said, well, I think a mastermind specifically for mental health professionals would be wise. So I was brought on to a Google group by a local psychiatrist. And so I was networking with him and asking. I have this idea, do you, you started this group, so are you seeing a need for something like this?
Tara: Does your group facilitate that? Is there a need for something that's more like meeting focused as opposed to like sending emails to your listserv? He thought it was a good idea, wanted to be a part of it, and so there, there it became. So I have this mastermind, it meets monthly, virtually. Right now, it's localized for South Florida, mental health professionals.
Tara: So therapists of all letters of the alphabet and psychiatrists. Other behavioral health professionals. I opened it up to students as well and interns. So people who are curious about what it's like to be a business owner and what we, what we deal with, what our struggles are, cause there's nothing like getting into an industry without knowing what you're really getting
Kym: Really? Oh my gosh.
Tara: So
Kym: the Facebook groups all the time people posting like, they're not even licensed yet. And they're like, did I make a mistake?
Tara: I see it.
Kym: career for me? It's like, you know, it's not as easy as it looks a lot of times, you know, I mean, once you get it going, you get a good referral network.
Kym: It's not so bad, but there, there's, there are pitfalls for
Tara: And I think that ties into why, where we get the being bad business owners. There's so much involved in the work that we do already. Like, the grassroots that we do that we got into because we don't want to get away from. I, I love people. I am a human person. So I want to stay in that work. But also it's not always great for me practicing being a person too.
Tara: It's not, it's, it's give and take, right? And a lot, a lot of give, and I don't hate it. I don't dislike it. I don't resent it, but this is kind of a way to flex a different muscle. And get that networking in, which I absolutely love as of right now, the group is free. I've been a part of masterminds that have like subscription style service or like membership fees, things like that.
Tara: And if this grows and takes off, because I want to treat it like group therapy, where I don't want it to get so big that I'm managing a mastermind of 20 people. That doesn't sound super productive. That sounds more like a seminar workshop or presentation. Then maybe breaking it off into more like smaller regional, whether it's geographic groups, or maybe interest groups, like having a traveler, a traveling therapist, mastermind, or whatever, sports, social worker, mastermind, things like that.
Tara: So, maybe down the road, it becomes a membership type situation, but right now it's not calling so much of my effort where it's worth me charging for it. I like the community of it for now.
Kym: I love that. Yeah. I love that. And that's kind of how all of my income streams started, you know, with just like, Oh, this is a problem. And I know some people that are also having this problem. So let's talk about it. And then like, gosh, do you think I could scale this and it would help a lot of other people and it kind of grows from there, you know?
Tara: Exactly. That's, it's a seed and maybe it takes, maybe it stays local,
Kym: Yeah.
Tara: but the mastermind model has been something that served entrepreneurs and business owners for a long time. And if we want to be better at things like I'm sure social media marketing made someone cringe who's listening because we need to be better.
Tara: They want to be better at it or whatever the case is. And that's exactly what the group is about is figuring out those little gaps.
Kym: I don't even think I'd be where I am with any of my businesses if I didn't have like a mastermind or like, you know, business besties or whatever you want to call them, like that. We're going through the exact same thing and helps me figure it out, you know, along the way.
Kym: Cause it, it's. It's a journey. If you've never done any of this stuff before, it's like, how do you know how to do it? You know, we're like therapists, like, you know, whatever. But then it's like this whole other like beast, you know, like there's so many aspects to it and you have to almost become an expert in everything.
Kym: So it's so good to have a group to connect to that's going through the same thing or has already been there, done that a little bit, you know, to give you some insights or, or pitfalls to look out for. Yeah.
Tara: Yeah, absolutely. And I feel like in grad school and our internships and our placements, we hear about You know, connecting with other peers or mentors or getting connected about the clinical work. And so the mastermind kind of gets us outside of the clinical part because consultation groups are a plenty, you know, find your people to connect with and talk about your caseload if you need to, or get referrals.
Tara: The mastermind is more about, you know, the business owner therapist, or the business minded therapist.
Kym: Yeah. I love that so much. So how would somebody listening find you if they wanted to join something like that? Some of the traveling therapists here are listening.
Tara: Yeah, I think maybe it might be the easiest to kind of just direct to my com, to my website. My practice name is Finish Line Mindset, so that's my com, that's my Instagram, that's my TikTok, that's how you'll find me, and I have a contact page. I think that would be the most streamlined way to
Kym: Love that.
Tara: folks to me.
Kym: Love that. Like consistent branding.
Tara: Yeah! I got lucky. I got lucky.
Kym: Try to get the same name across all domains. Yeah. That's, that's really smart. Well, thank you. Is it? It's Tara, right? I think I said Tara in the beginning, but is it Tara?
Tara: yeah, yeah,
Kym: Tara Wells, thank you so much for coming. Is there anything else you want to say to anybody listening
Tara: oh, my gosh, there's so much 2025 has a lot in store for me. I didn't get to touch on it, but I'm
Kym: Oh,
Tara: this year to
Kym: us,
Tara: I'm hiring. So I'm hiring sports, social workers. I'm trying to stay in that in that lane,
Kym: I love it.
Tara: which is going to facilitate a lot for me to travel and manage staff and still have my caseload.
Tara: I'm not. If any of my clients happen to be listening, they're like, I have some lifers that are like, you're not firing me and they're right. I'm not marrying me for as long as they, they choose to but I'll be scaling. So, I'm hoping that that facilitates the part time clinical piece and gets me more into, like, that supervisor role.
Tara: I'm going to be a qualified supervisor this year as well. So lots of things that it sound when I talk about it out loud, it sounds like I'm doing so much and I'm spreading myself out so wide, but The goal is to I'm, I'm at my best when I have different things on my calendar. I have. Clinical sessions.
Tara: I have supervision. I have a networking meeting. I have a podcast interview. Like these things make my day feel so rich and full and not draining.
Kym: I love that so much. Yeah, diversifying and just, yeah, I love that too. I would get so bored. I mean, I, I have like lifers too. I have like, 3 or 4 clients that just, I'll probably never get rid of them, you know, but, but the rest, I mean, I've really scaled out a clinical work a lot. And I love it.
Kym: I love the, the different, you know, things going on. Like I've got this, I've got a business meeting later, I've got a partnership meeting later, you know, it's just like fun, exciting to be able to just kind of like spread out. And that's, that's the cool thing about being a therapist. And part of the message with this podcast is you don't just have to do one to one client work.
Kym: Like there's so much you can do and people like you are such an inspiration and to hear that you're scaling sounds like group practice, why scaling, like bringing in people and that's very exciting. Yeah.
Tara: I am thrilled about it. And then of course, with sports being international, who knows where my trout, like everything's a business trip at this point too. So
Kym: Why not? If you can write it off somehow, that's perfect.
Kym: That's a good mindset to have. Like, how can I incorporate travel in and write it off? That would be amazing.
Kym: Well, thank you so much for taking the time today.
Tara: Thank you, Kim. I appreciate it. Thank you for what you offer with this podcast and opening up all these possibilities. It's really cool to hear that there's so much familiarity with this topic.
Kym: thank you. Thanks so much.