Sometimes it takes stepping far outside your normal routine to realize what you actually want your life to look like. In this episode of The Traveling Therapist Podcast, I sit down with returning guest Tara Wells to talk about how a trip through Asia completely shifted her perspective on work, travel, and possibility.
As we talk, Tara shares how her experiences in India, Vietnam, and Thailand reshaped her vision of becoming a location independent therapist, and why Bangkok unexpectedly tied Mexico City as her favorite place in the world. We also dig into what it means to release rigid plans, trust what feels grounding, and build a therapy business that supports movement instead of limiting it.
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Transcript:
[00:00:00] Kym_: Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of The Traveling Therapist podcast. We have a return guest. I'm really excited. We have Tara Wells here with us. Tara's a therapist, and we could probably talk about her background and all that good stuff, but she's already been a guest on here.
[00:00:15] Last time she was sort of hinting to this three week Asia trip. She was taking time off. She was gonna go do the trip and everything, but now she's back and it's just kind of opened up her eyes. I guess,
[00:00:27] Tara, we could say it's opened up your eyes a little bit, changed your perspective on how you're doing things as a traveling therapist, and I just really wanna dive into it and talk about it.
[00:00:36] So let's, maybe you could recap the trip. I know last time we talked about like how you were planning for it and everything, but let's talk about that and then how your perspective has shifted and what you're doing now.
[00:00:46] Tara: I would love to talk about my trip. It's bread and butter conversation for me. I was taking like three to four weeks. I mean when you're traveling that far from the east coast, it's you know, factor in some time for the travel itself.
[00:01:01] And I'm sure a lot of listeners can relate that when you're going that far, you don't wanna take a traditional long weekend vacation that we're so used to taking in the US or maybe the five days off it's going all the way to India or Thailand is not conducive for five days. Based on what's available, but also the time it takes to get there. It's expensive and costly in our time.
[00:01:24] But I did quite the trip. I have a friend who was doing research in South India at the time, in Bang, or my store right outside of Bangalore. So I went to meet him. He and I went to Vietnam together.
[00:01:36] So I stayed in Bangalore for a little bit with him. He showed me around a little bit his second time living there. So, oh my gosh. Lots of pomp and grounds to go check out. then we did Hanoi and Hal Long Bay together. That was a bucket list item for him, and I'm glad it was. It was stunning. Beautiful. So much more to see in Vietnam now.
[00:01:55] We parted ways. He came back to Miami and then I went on a solo trip to Pattaya and Bangkok in Thailand. like eight or nine days, fell in love. Based on my last episode, I was in love with Mexico City. Now. We have a contender. We have tied for first Bangkok and Mexico City.
[00:02:18] Kym_: tell me what you loved about it. 'cause I've talked to quite a few traveling therapists that have like gone to Bangkok and Thailand and they're like, it's, it's everything. Like, I wanna know about it. 'cause I, I think the distance of the trip has really like, stopped me from doing that. I don't know why it just has. but I, I'm super curious about that part of the world. So what was it like, what is it about Bangkok and like that area that you're just like, I am obsessed.
[00:02:41] Tara: There's something to be said about being in a country like Thailand has no colonization history and like the richness of just their culture so pure to them. So proud and like a healthy relationship with nationality and like Land of Smiles is what they're No, like that's their tagline and they're not joking, like a friendly face everywhere you wanna look and Bangkok for being a big city.
[00:03:06] And it's a big expat city and a big immigrant city for like English speaking countries. A lot of folks from US, England, Australia, Canada immigrate to Bangkok specifically for industry for access. And I'm a city girl. I love public transportation. I love the idea of walking to my grocery store, my pharmacy a cat cafe and a mall in the same day. And I didn't just drive 45 miles that happen.
[00:03:36] And so Bangkok offers all of that and something that I haven't been able to find in the us specifically that I feel like I found in Mexico and I found in Thailand now like a spiritual grounding that I just being there and being present in those countries, I feel so grounded where I don't feel that in a lot of, certainly not in a city in the US and I have a lovely relationship with cities like Houston and Miami and DC.
[00:04:06] Love them. But when I think about living in any of these cities long term, it doesn't make me feel good. It doesn't make, I don't really look forward to it. I'm like, I would love to travel to dc. I would love to travel to Houston, and I've lived in Houston and when I think about Mexico City, I'm like, A trip could never be long enough.
[00:04:23] Bangkok, A trip could never be long enough. So now I'm playing with the idea of like, I was hoping to move to Mexico City. Now we're, we're looking at maybe making my first move all the way to Thailand and seeing what that could be like.
[00:04:35] Kym_: Oh my gosh. I love that. It's, it's so exciting to just even hear you talk about it. Yeah. And I love the idea of, you know, okay, I don't even remember when the last episode was, but you were here. You're like, I'm in love with Mexico City. That's the plan. And now you've been somewhere else and it's totally changed.
[00:04:51] And like, that's the message I want this podcast to give to people. It's like, you can do anything you want to, like, if you wanna change your mind, if you wanna, I mean, we just signed a lease for three months. We haven't done that in four years. If, if you want to do that, do it. Like, who cares? And then, and then move to, to Bangkok, you know, for three months or whatever, you know, whatever visas allow and all that stuff. The logistical stuff. Yeah. I mean, I, I just love that message.
[00:05:20] Tara: It only has to make sense to you.
[00:05:22] Kym_: right. Exactly.
[00:05:23] Tara: to make sense to you. And I mean, naturally some of us have responsibilities and we might have to convince another person or two,
[00:05:29] Kym_: Yeah. I'm working on that.
[00:05:31] Tara: for what feels right for you. It only has to make sense up there.
[00:05:34] Kym_: Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
[00:05:35] Tara: I, the whole reason I even loved the idea of moving to Mexico City was because there's so much that this world has to offer.
[00:05:43] And while I love the conveniences and the privilege it is to be American and to have been win the lottery and being born here. I have access and the means to go and explore and be a part of so much more.
[00:05:55] And sometimes it like blows my mind a little bit, Kim, that there is so much more to this world. Like I see tiktoks about China and I'm like, what do you mean cities can look like this?
[00:06:05] Kym_: Yeah, totally. Exactly. I'm the same way. I'm like an experiencer, like I can watch documentaries or whatever, but I wanna be sitting in it like feeling it, you know? Yeah, totally get that. So I love it. I'm so excited. I can't wait to hear what you do, and I hope you're gonna like put tons of pictures on your Instagram, but everywhere.
[00:06:25] Once you get to wherever you're going, you're like, heck yeah. But I wanna talk about something else really cool that you're doing and that's pursuing your Canadian citizenship, right?
[00:06:36] Tara: Yes.
[00:06:37] Kym_: Can we talk about that a little bit? I get a lot of questions, like in my emails, people will be like, I wanna move to Canada.
[00:06:42] I don't know how to do it. Now you've got like an in kind of, but let's talk about, let's talk about that, just the process maybe a little bit and how that's going. So people listening could be like, oh, I didn't even realize I could do that.
[00:06:53] Tara: Sure, yeah. My in is adoption. my dad adopted me. He's my, was my stepdad. I call, he's my adoptive dad. His name is just dad. But
[00:07:03] Kym_: Yeah.
[00:07:03] Tara: adopted me when I was 22 and
[00:07:06] Kym_: Aw.
[00:07:07] Tara: this as an option a couple years ago and. There are some political motivations where, you know, there's some humming and I don't want, I don't care to dwell on that, but it
[00:07:18] Kym_: Yeah.
[00:07:19] Tara: there, it's in my mind. And also being Canadian is really cool
[00:07:22] Kym_: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
[00:07:23] Tara: love to be able to claim officially, and not just by adoption and by family. I spent a significant amount of time in Toronto as a kid. I basically like, the summers of Toronto raised me in a lot of, in a lot of ways.
[00:07:37] So I know how to prep my bagged milk. I know how to do all that stuff. So I, um. Talked to my dad about it. He's supportive. I mean, dual citizenship here is pretty easy to access. Like between Canada and the US is pretty easy to access.
[00:07:50] There are zero hoops you have to jump through as as a US citizen. it's interesting that it's still completely a paper application. It's a two part application, both submitted in paper, meaning I have to go to a company to have 'em print it 'cause I don't have a printer in my house.
[00:08:05] Kym_: Yeah. Right. Who does?
[00:08:06] Tara: Yeah. And now that I'm planning a massive move, I'm like, I don't wanna buy more. What am I doing? Now I'm really conscious about my consumption getting ready to move.
[00:08:15] Kym_: Absolutely. Yep.
[00:08:17] Tara: But since I'm adopted, the process is very straightforward because there's only so many documents that would fit for me to automatically get that.
[00:08:26] So part one is just checking your eligibility, that your adoption and the timeline and all of those little things that they have in their law match.
[00:08:35] So part one, you get an approval email, at least that comes in an email, thank goodness. You pay your fee and all of that. And then part two, I just submitted two weeks ago, and that's your citizenship photos.
[00:08:47] Part two application mirrors a lot of part one, and I wonder if that's just for like cohesion and crossing your T's, dotting your i's.
[00:08:55] Hopefully I'll hear back in three, four months. I think they're a little bit more delayed than part one, but I can wait a few months for this part. This is, this is a cool buildup.
[00:09:04] Kym_: That's awesome. So then when you have citizenship, I mean, you could just go live there forever if you wanted to. Right. There's no like visa restrictions or anything. Wow. That is very cool. So does that work into your plan with, or is it like, I don't even know what the plan is really. I'm just like, like downsizing and getting ready to do whatever happens.
[00:09:24] Tara: Yeah, whatever happens I probably will get a Canadian passport as well. Especially with like just global relations. It's not a dumb idea. Honestly, at this point, Kim, I think it's less so of a plan and more so of like, what a cool thing to be able to claim and do, and yeah, Maybe that's a little, not arrogant, but it's a little, it's just kind of one of those things where I'm like, this is my kind of bucket list.
[00:09:50] Kym_: I like it. It's like, Hey y'all, I've got dual citizenship. That's pretty cool.
[00:09:54] Tara: Yeah.
[00:09:55] Kym_: That's awesome.
[00:09:56] Tara: I love it and it's, Canada's a big part of my story as a kid and, I love the idea of living in Canada two countries I wanna live to also help with my cost of living Canada does not fit into that narrative
[00:10:07] Kym_: Gonna say it's a little pricey now it's Thailand. Is Bangkok expensive or, or is that, I always hear Thailand's affordable.
[00:10:15] Tara: Thailand is affordable. It's more affordable than Mexico City for sure, but more expensive than a lot of places in Vietnam that I would've considered living to.
[00:10:24] Kym_: interesting. Okay. Yeah. Oh my gosh.
[00:10:27] Tara: And to speak to the plan piece is I don't want, I, my plan does not include picking up, moving and resettling. It's movement. It's my lust for life and wonder is too strong for me to wanna stay somewhere for 20 years. I think I just wanna, like I've been in Palm Beach Gardens for 11 years now and that's like five years too long for yeah, me
[00:10:51] Kym_: I understand. Yeah. Places just get boring after a while, especially when you travel to all the different places, you know, it's like, okay, this is nice, but there's so, I mean, after you've been exposed to places, it's like, yeah, but that place was really cool too, and that place was cool. And it's like, how could you ever just pick one? I mean, that's how I feel anyway,
[00:11:09] Tara: I entirely agree, and it's like test it out, figure it out, find out all of that, and.
[00:11:16] Kym_: Yeah.
[00:11:16] Tara: There's so much to see and I more than a week of experiencing it, I just, there are some places where I've been, like, a week was perfect, A long weekend was great to see Key West a week was great to go to Chicago. A week was not long enough for Bangkok.
[00:11:32] Hmm. I'm like, I want to. get a meal in, in between sessions kind of thing. Like yeah. With the idea of existing and playing. I keep saying playing house, but I'm like it won't be playing after too much longer.
[00:11:45] Kym_: Yeah, exactly. It's so funny. You kind of realize every time it's like, okay, I don't need that long in that place. Like, roswell, New Mexico. I was like, wouldn't it be cool to stay in Roswell for a week? 'cause I didn't know anything about it. I was like, I love aliens and you know, I wanna, I wanna like learn all about it.
[00:12:01] And literally you go through Roswell, it's like, it's like this big, it's like literally you need an hour in that place, you And it's like, okay. Yeah. So I'm glad I didn't book a whole week here. Ken was like, we could just do like one day and stay the night and see, and you know, maybe. If we want to. I was like, that's a good idea.
[00:12:15] So yeah, you learn your lesson. Like if we had stayed there a week or two, that would've been terrible. I mean, just for us, somebody might love Roswell that's listening, but anyway.
[00:12:22] Tara: same thing I, I did Pattaya when I first landed in Thailand. Not a highly recommended place by a lot of people I know and for reasons, like there's quite a bit of sex tourism there, but I just wanted to stare at an ocean close to the airport before going to Bangkok. That was my reason, and to me it is a good enough reason.
[00:12:43] Kym_: Yeah. I love that. Let's do a little recap for people that maybe didn't listen to the other time that you were a guest about your practice now 'cause I love your niche, it's super interesting. Let's talk about that.
[00:12:54] But I also wanna talk about like the entrepreneur entrepreneurial. Why can't I say that word today? Entrepreneurialship of what you're doing Also. 'cause that's a huge part of this podcast, right? It's like how do I get outta that like one-to-one model and try to scale and do some other things that I'm interested in to have more time to actually like travel and live in these places that I wanna go explore?
[00:13:17] That kind of thing. So can we do a little recap, like about what you're doing now and, the thing that you've recently launched? I'd love to talk about that and just kind of get into it all.
[00:13:26] Tara: Yeah. So my private practice finish line mindset is platforming and specializing in athlete mental health care. So I do a lot of identity work. Sometimes retirement work for athletes that choose or unfortunately don't choose to retire from their sport.
[00:13:42] I see a lot of teens and college athletes that are looking to expand their game from the physical into the mental. So some clinical work. I also specialize in trauma and eating disorders. but that's, my platform there. I love my niche and I also focus on bipoc and queer and trans athletes as well.
[00:14:00] Kym_: Nice.
[00:14:02] Tara: practice. Fully virtual, already packed in my suitcase, ready to go. that's my work My goal this year is more speaking engagements than clinical work.
[00:14:12] So I stopped taking insurance recently to kind of encourage myself to make that shift and it seems to be working out so far. So, conferences, panels, all that good stuff.
[00:14:22] Kym_: Wow, that's exciting. Ooh. You like public speaking?
[00:14:26] Tara: I love public speaking. I
[00:14:28] Kym_: I hate it.
[00:14:29] Tara: Yeah. Put me in like, our college 1 0 1 classes, 400 people and only three of 'em are listening. No problem.
[00:14:37] Kym_: Oh my gosh.
[00:14:37] Tara: I don't like lecturing. Let me be very specific. I do not like lecturing. I use products and software tools that help engage the audience.
[00:14:47] And I work with teens a lot of the time your phones are out.
[00:14:51] Kym_: Yeah.
[00:14:51] Tara: with teenagers on a large scale or have to reinforce group rules where the phones are away, you know, that's a fight. It's, it's an argument. I don't like taking, so I use phones as a tool to engage with my content when I do presentations
[00:15:03] Kym_: That's so smart. Oh my gosh, that is so smart. Well, I,
[00:15:08] Tara: A break and come answer my
[00:15:10] Kym_: yeah. Oh, I love that. That's so good. Yeah, I, I love that you love public speaking too. 'cause that's such a great way to scale out, you know, to be able to just offer your expertise on the grand scale, make more money, do it once instead of a thousand times over and over again with one-to-one clients. So it's amazing. So let's talk about the Mastermind project that you have.
[00:15:32] Tara: My diversification tool. Yes. So the unpacked Mastermind is business baby number two, and it was born out of a gap I noticed for entrepreneurship in mental health practice. I'm sure a lot of us have heard the stereotype that therapists are terrible business owners. Because we don't learn a lot in grad school. We're not really empowered with information at any point.
[00:15:57] It's kind of something we stumble upon, make mistakes, find out we need a CPA, or find out that we can trademark our practice names or any of these things. I wanted to help fill that gap, not as a know it all professional, but as someone who is absolutely willing to lay the foundation for us to get into community, exactly what you do, Kim, and address the business gaps that we have.
[00:16:26] We have clinical consultation, we have consultation groups, we have supervision that we're able to get back into. This is getting away from the clinical and getting into the business side of it.
[00:16:36] So the tagline is, everything grad school didn't teach you, nor did our internships, like how to complete documentation without all of the red tape of our community mental health care, like all of our. What's the word? Not creditors, but
[00:16:50] Kym_: Auditors.
[00:16:51] Tara: the auditors, the payers,
[00:16:53] Kym_: yeah, yeah. The oversight committee, whatever that is. Yeah.
[00:16:57] Tara: yes.
[00:16:58] Kym_: right, right. I.
[00:17:00] Tara: addressing things like that, addressing social media, SEO search, engine optimization, website feedback, it's peer to peer. You and I know that we all have our own set of weaknesses and strengths that we can play on each other. And so anyone who shows up to a mastermind, their hour long virtual meetings, you show up in that group of folks who are all mental health professionals. So I go to a different mastermind, I'm getting recommendations to get testimonials to publish on my website, that can be an ethical gray area.
[00:17:33] So I'd rather get in a mastermind with other mental health professionals to figure out what is an ethical way to navigate that, or how do I turn that advice into something that's actually actionable for what we do? So it's entirely masterminds. My goal is to have a lot more than what I have on the site now, but hosting a bunch of masterminds just for folks to drop in, participate, get some good intel, some immediate action steps, some reminders. Our natural, our natural skillset, our natural resources, and kind of be better in business and balanced in business too.
[00:18:12] Kym_: Yes. I love it so much. So we're, I mean, we're kind of like talking about it, but what is the structure of it? Just so people listening. 'cause one I, they're probably like, wait, what is this? I wanna know more about it. And two, a lot of people, you know, they wanna try to do stuff like this too. So like how did you structure it and how, and it's, I know it's just really still coming together for you, like trying to figure out all the moving pieces and everything. But could we talk just a little bit about that too?
[00:18:37] Tara: Absolutely. Mm. The structure of it, the setup, I set it up to be virtual. Unsurprisingly, I still need things to be portable. I joined another group, not a mastermind, but just another community-based group that didn't wanna use Facebook group. So they used a platform called Circle.
[00:18:56] So that's what I use to host the unpacked Mastermind, that's where the events calendar is. There's a forum on there. It kind of mirrors a lot of what Facebook does, but I wanted to separate it and make it a little bit more, I put it behind a paywall obviously, 'cause it's a subscription model. But that's what I set up to make it easier to travel with, but also makes it really easy for me to set up moderators as it grows, and, easy to use, user friendly.
[00:19:26] That's really important to me. adds a layer of personability. It's accessed by members only, which was the intention as well as everyone's kind of putting. It's a give a penny, take a penny kind of situation, so a lot of masterminds are gonna be led by other hosts. It's not just gonna be me owning every mastermind I'm thinking about if there's any other gaps that to answer your questions.
[00:19:51] Kym_: No, I think that's so important because in my coaching calls I get that question all the time. It's like, how do I even do this? Like, how do I even get this started? You know, like the, the tech piece of it, like the, the logistics of it, you know, because we can all have great ideas, but then it's like implementing it and like, like having it be a functioning beast, so to speak. You know?
[00:20:12] So I like that you're using circle because I mean, even like my very first membership was built like a bus five years ago, and we are still trying to figure out the logistics of this membership. Like it has been like business school for therapists. Like I never learned, there's no like backend, like this is how you run the backend of a membership site, you know, so we're like, piecemealing this together and coming up with SOPs.
[00:20:34] It's like, you know what, what's that saying about, you know, build it as the plane's flying or whatever. I don't know what the saying is, but you know what I'm talking about. That's how it was for us. And it's like, oh, we need an SOP for that. Oh gosh, how do we handle like refund requests? Or how do we, when somebody does a chargeback, which is such a pain in the butt.
[00:20:51] So anyway, just trying to figure out like the SOPs and like how are we going to, you know, do the back end of this thing. We're still trying to figure that stuff out.
[00:20:59] I mean, eventually we moved it to like a membership platform, Kartra, which even now is outdated, so it's like we almost need to switch again. So it's just like this ever anything but, but circle And what are some other ones? School like it, mighty Networks.
[00:21:14] Those are all such good. And I wish I had done them too, because now, I mean, I really run mine like with private Facebook groups and then the contents in the platform, you know? So, but I think it's so smart to do it that way, so I'm glad you're talking about that, really. Um,
[00:21:30] Tara: I started, I started that way. I'm, I'm a little allergic to Facebook. I may have talked about that last time.
[00:21:35] Kym_: aren't we all, if I hadn't built literally my whole business over there, I don't think I'd be there anymore . It's so frustrating.
[00:21:42] Tara: good. I mean, they know what they're doing. I get like
[00:21:45] Kym_: Yeah. Yeah. it's tough. It's tough. So, you know, I guess all that to say, like anybody listening that has an idea, wants to start something, it can be bumpy, like trying to figure out all the pieces, but just do it anyway, you know?
[00:21:57] 'cause it's worth it. 'cause I, I'm sure the, not content, but the masterminds you're gonna be putting out there are just gonna be so helpful to therapists. It's amazing.
[00:22:05] Tara: and that's the, the meat of it. Yeah, the tech piece is, it's a nice forum. That's where the calendar is, but it's the masterminds. That's the give a penny. Take a penny. That's the attendance piece that you're really getting, like beyond your value in, in my opinion.
[00:22:18] Kym_: Exactly. I'm just really excited that you're putting that out there into the world. I'm sure it's gonna help so many people. So what are some of your ideas for the different types of masterminds? Like, I know that you've told me like privately without recording, but maybe you could tell the listeners in case they're like, well, what all are you gonna have?
[00:22:33] Tara: Yes, definitely. I squirrely brain, lots of ideas and open to more, so I'm open to feedback and requests for sure, because it's not about me. I've done group therapy for a long time. It's not about me. It's not my group it's yours.
[00:22:50] The majority of the masterminds are gonna be what I call general masterminds. So they're not topic specific, they're not gonna be state specific or anything like that. Those are gonna be your catchalls.
[00:22:59] But then we get into the special topic ones, which will be I think I wanna do a social media one. That's like a common thread that comes up a lot is optimizing social media management. When is it time to hire a virtual assistant? That kind of thing would be a really good mastermind on its own.
[00:23:15] And keeping in mind that these all are set up to meet monthly, so they're not random per se. So my masterminds that I own right now are the first, I have one on a first Monday, I have one on a first Friday, and then I have another special topic, one that I'm gonna run and then eventually hand over, which is sports psychology. Which I'll start, but I'd love to hand off 'cause I can't run all the masterminds that I envision having.
[00:23:39] Of course there will be at least one to three traveling therapists masterminds, I say one to three 'cause we need to cover several time zones. I can't just cater to east coast time zone. I can't just cater to a Bangkok time zone.
[00:23:55] That would be kind of the antithesis of having a traveling therapist mastermind if there's only one. But my hope is to have one. So if anybody is interested in like what that's about or hosting it. You get a free membership if you host.
[00:24:09] So I would love for someone to take that over if anyone wants to listen in is like, I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm excited about it. You are instantly qualified to do it
[00:24:18] Kym_: I love it. I mean, there's probably so many listeners that'll be like, I am a traveling therapist. I wanna host a mastermind. So I think that's really cool. So I hope you guys will reach out to Tara and talk about that. Yeah, amazing. I love it. So where do people find the Mastermind? Where's the URL for it?
[00:24:35] Tara: Yep. my.com is the unpacked mastermind.com. It's a single landing page plus a contact page. I love a simple landing website, unlike my finish line mindset. Website. So that's a simple website because we have the platform, which is where all the meat and the goodies are. if you go to the unpacked mastermind.com, you have the join now link that includes a month free trial.
[00:24:59] So if you were to sign up at the time of listening to this, you'll probably have at least three or four masterminds that you can join before you have to commit to any kind of monthly payment. Right now at the time of recording, I, I would still be willing to honor a founder's rate, so, or the time of the release.
[00:25:17] Kym_: Nice.
[00:25:18] Tara: Traditionally it's gonna be the same price as Psychology Today, which is 29.95 USD and you get it for 24 point 99 as a founder.
[00:25:28] Kym_: Oh, nice. That's awesome. Yeah. We'll put it in the show notes too. You guys go check it out. 'Cause this episode will probably be out in, I'd say two weeks So that would be great. Yes. Okay. Well, thank you so much Tara. Maybe you'll come back and check in and tell us how Bangkok is when you moved there.
[00:25:44] Tara: I would love to. you keep inviting me, Kim. I keep coming.
[00:25:47] Kym_: I know. I know. I love it.
[00:25:49] Tara: wanna say. Like, our house is always open. I'll be like, great. 'cause I like you and I will be here.
[00:25:54] Kym_: Exactly. I love it. Well, thanks for coming back and sharing. Good luck on your Canadian citizenship and your moves wherever you know the wind takes you. And also this next thing that you're launching, this unpacked Mastermind. I think it's really cool.
[00:26:09] Tara: Yeah, thanks Kim. And as always, thank you for the platform and the spaces that you've allowed to like really open my eyes when I saw the traveling therapist and being like, okay, I'm not the only one in this field that just gets that urge to expand, to fly, to move, and it's so validating. So thank you as well.
[00:26:28] Kym_: Oh, you're welcome. Thank you.