You know that feeling when you stumble across a hidden gem during your travels? That burst of excitement because you've found something truly special? That’s exactly how I felt after my chat with Lindsey Haverslu. Her journey from a traditional therapist to a globetrotting, multi-passionate entrepreneur is nothing short of inspiring.
Picture this: Starting in Thailand during a global pandemic, Lindsey turned her dream into reality against all odds. So many of you email me, saying you want to start your traveling therapist journey now—not stuck in the States, but out there in the world. Lindsey did just that, and it’s a game-changer.
What struck me was her fearless leap, especially when her business wasn’t yet enough to sustain her. She took a calculated risk, leaned into social media, and boom! She built a thriving practice with thousands of followers on Instagram and even brought on associates. Imagine the freedom that kind of success gives you.
Lindsey also created Solaceekers Collective, a supportive space for Betrayed Partners. Her passion, mixed with travel narratives, makes her not just a therapist, but a beacon of hope and transformation for her clients. It’s proof that pursuing your passion can serve others in profound ways.
Whether you’re grappling with the complexities of licensing or craving other income streams for more travel freedom, Lindsey’s story is your roadmap. She’s balancing private practice, a booming social media presence, and, soon enough, hosting a retreat in Guatemala.
The biggest takeaway? Don’t be afraid to showcase your unique lifestyle within your practice. Authenticity draws the right clients to you. Use your travels not just for personal growth but as an extension of the healing work you do with your clients.
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About Lindsay Haverslew:
I am a Registered Therapeutic Counsellor and Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (from Canada) specializing in betrayal trauma recovery. I launched my private practice as a side gig to my agency job in January 2020. When everything went virtual with the pandemic, I began to see this as an opportunity to travel and work, and in January 2021 I took a leave of absence from my agency job, moved to Thailand for 10 months and have never looked back. I've really been on the move since then and have bounced around from place to place, returning to Thailand several times, as well as to Mexico, Colombia, England, Scotland, Laos and the U.S. I have learned I tend to get itchy feet around the 3 month mark somewhere and need to pack up and move again!
For 3 years I had a challenging time filling my practice through traditional marketing like Psychology Today and a website, so I decided to do some research on marketing on Instagram. Within a few short months I was no longer accepting new clients and within one year I had hired 4 associates onto my team to keep up with requests. We are all 100% virtual and I am thrilled that I can create opportunities for other travelling therapists! I really enjoy using Instagram as a marketing tool as I find it to be an incredible creative outlet, and I absolutely love sharing what I have learned with others who are looking to build their caseloads using IG as well.
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TRANSCRIPT:
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Hi everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the traveling therapist podcast. Really excited today to have Lindsay haverslaw here with havers Lindsay haverslu here with us. Super excited. There's so many cool things in her bio. I just can't wait to get to it all. I hope we can get to it all. It's really awesome. But Lindsay, I always start out and ask, how did you go from being a traditional therapist to a traveling therapist?
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Oh my gosh, I almost just really love this story, and I get worried that I'm going to go on and on, but so it is really just my dream. Like I have wanted to travel for so many years, and I was held back by a lot of things, a lot of fears. And then, of course, once I became a therapist. It was talking this really traditional role. I worked at a clinic. I worked at I worked for the government in Canada, a couple different places, and, yeah, just like in an office setting. And got really used to my three weeks of vacation were my times to travel, and that was it. And so I started so in Canada you can work with a bachelor's degree first. So I was a therapist with a bachelor degree there, and I had decided to do my master's. So I was doing my master's online part time while working. So I had done a two week trip, I think it was to Colombia. And when I was in Colombia, while I was there, the pandemic hit my friend and I almost didn't even make it home. We We were like, oh, it's not a big deal. It's not really serious. We're just gonna chill a gear, wait for things to pass. And my dad actually would get on the plane, and if I happened to him, like our original fight was canceled, it was not gonna happen.
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So I just got goosebumps. Oh my gosh. Could you imagine? Yes, it
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was pretty scary. More after the fact, when I realized just how close it was. But anyways, yes, we got back, and it was just really sinking in. Travel might not happen for me for a while. I was pretty nervous about it, because it had become a pretty big part again, every year I took my big trip. I've been to several different places, and yeah, and so anyways, then my master's internship was coming along, and I was starting to have to plan for that. And I had played around with the idea for a long time of I would love to do this in another country. When I realized I was going to be trapped in Canada for quite some time, I was like, I'm going to apply to do my internship in Thailand. I had Thailand before I knew I loved it. It felt so safe, yeah. So I just like, I put in a few different applications, and really, the first place I talked to was like, yeah, we'd love to have you. So that was quite an experience. Oh my gosh, getting like, permission to enter the country during a global pandemic was a nightmare. I literally didn't even know up until the day I was leaving if I for sure would get to go, because there was, like, some kind of conditional conditions of entry, or something like that. Thing I had to do, I had to do covid tests, I had to apply for a work visa. There was all these things. And they basically told me, like, you could be turned away right up until the point that you passed immigration in Thailand. So, oh my gosh, it was nerve wracking. And I guess the part that I skipped along the way here was I was had just started a tiny private practice just on the side, like just an itty bitty little one, maybe two clients a week, that kind of thing. So that was what was going to sustain me while I was doing my internship there. So anyways, I made it. I was good. I got I had to do 15 days in hotel, in quarantine in Thailand. And then that led to my internship there for at a treatment center near Chiang Mai. And I was there for, I think it was eight months, and then I just stayed another two months. I was on an island in the South, just totally in love with it.
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Gosh, did you go by yourself? Is someone to go with you or you just No, I
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yeah, I went. So it was terrifying.
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It it's so brave and so terrifying to me, just to hear it, I couldn't even imagine doing that, and especially during a pandemic. But you had been to Tyler before, so you had at least a little bit of information about what it was like and all of that just
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three weeks. And really it was a lot like I went in 2014 just on one of those little like tours for three weeks. So yeah, I just had a kind of a taste of it. I knew I loved it, but that was about it. And so this was my first really big trip outside of, I think going places for three weeks like this was huge.
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So what do you say? Okay, so I know people are listening, especially like people that don't have their masters yet that need licensing hours about what did you say to the place entirely? Hey, I just want to come here, and I need you just to sign off on my supervision hours or whatever. They were like, Yeah, that's totally fine coming. Well, I had
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to do a certain So, yeah, in the practicum. Now I can't remember what it was. I want to say it was like eight hours a week or something, minimum of direct client time, and then doing all the different coursework alongside of it. So yeah, they just had to pair me up with somebody who fit my school's kind of requirements, provision requirements, and, yeah, that part was pretty easy, actually. That
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is so cool, because people ask me, I get emails all the time about that. Hey, I really just want to start traveling now. I don't want to have to be stuck in the United States, like in a state, in an office, having to do all these. HOURS. Like, how do I navigate that? So I just love hearing stories around that somebody actually did that. It's real cool to me. Okay, so you were there, that's amazing, and you finished it up. Then after you finish it up, you went to another island around the area, just hung out for a little bit. How did the visa work different if you're doing, like, like full type stuff, versus, like, a nomad visa or something like
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that, or, yeah, so well, so what they did kind of had me on a work visa at that point. But yeah, I was just on this work visa for kind of the duration, and even extended it a little bit so that I could stay and go down to the south, to the islands, and, yeah, and then, so I just obviously gave that up, and when I left, I'd love
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to just book a call with you sometime and just talk about tiling, because it's such a dream of mine. But I've also it makes me nervous. I don't even know why, just, I've never really been to that part of the world, and I just wonder about, like, internet and all of that, was it fine, totally,
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oh my gosh, internet, I have to say, probably the best country for Internet that I've ever been. Like, you know, all I did, and very affordable too, right? Like, I got just a local SIM, stuck it in my phone, and I just hot spotted, and it was so incredible. Like, I think they're, I don't know all the terms, but their infrastructure right for for the cell service and stuff, is just amazing. So even I'm on this tiny, little island that really nobody's ever heard about, oh, like, it's so far from the mainland, and it always gets storms and stuff, and I'd just be like, Oh, the power would go out all the time. Of with the SIM card, it was fine, like I never had to worry about it.
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Wow. Because you do hear about that rolling blackout, even when I was in the Dominican Republic, all of a sudden, here comes a rolling blackout. Okay, I don't literally know when it's going to come back on, or do I have to cancel appointments, that sort of thing. So that's a good hack, like, a good
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workaround Mexico too. That was like that I had trouble in Mexico. Yeah,
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did you do the same thing Mexico? Just use, like, a hot spot on your phone. And in Europa, I
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did have that, but it didn't work as well. So it was a lot more stressful when I was in Mexico looking for places like, actually, my most recent place that I was in implied El Carmen. I don't they didn't say they had fiber optic, but I suspect maybe it was because it was also some of the best internet that I've ever had. But the few times, I think I was three times before that, like,
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terrible. That's the most stressful thing ever. So stressful. Yes, my God, showing up at a place like, all happy and excited, and then you go log in and you check the speed test, and it's like nothing. It's like awful. That's just the worst feeling the whole world. I don't know it just no it to me, that's one of the most stressful parts of the whole thing. I try to be digital nomad. It's just
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irritable, really is. And even when you do, like, your due diligence, like, I spend so much time researching, and I'm on Facebook groups like asking about, like, the Wi Fi different areas, and people are giving me tips and hints of things to look for. And even then, like, you can do everything, and you still end up in a place like, oh my gosh, this is not going to work.
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Oh yes, oh my gosh, yeah, I can relate. I've had to move like, wait. I canceled an Airbnb one time. I was like, this is not going to work. I called Airbnb. I was like, they said, high speed, Wi Fi, you could work in this environment. You can't. I need my money back now. They did give it back to me, but they were like, this really isn't a reason they canceled. I was like, yes, it absolutely okay. So I could just chit chat all day long. But I do want to talk about what happened next in your life. So you went ahead and finished that up, and then you had a little private practice going. And then where does your story go from there? Because I know you've got other things going on. So I'd love to just talk about that. Especially this podcast, we have so many, like multi passionate entrepreneurs that are really trying to have multiple income streams and live that life of freedom, time, freedom, client, freedom, all that stuff. So I'd love to just talk about your journey after that part.
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Yeah, yeah, of course. So this is almost where there was a bit of lull for me, like I didn't really know what I was going to do. There's like, here I've reached the end of my masters. Like, what am I going to do? And I was really fortunate that I did have a position with a government that was like mine, that I could come back to if I wanted. I just taken a leave of absence. And they, you know, were really wonderful with me saying, if you want to take another year, you can and so I'm thinking, great, like, I've got the security of my job to go back to if I need and I'm going to use this time to, like, really dive into private practice and try to get it going. Because, like, at this point, you know, I maybe was seeing six clients a week, like I was doing okay, and I have to stay afloat, but that's it. So in amongst all this, I was dabbling in travel. I went back to Colombia for a little bit. I went back to Mexico trying to think of where else that I went. I honestly can't even remember anymore. I've just bumped around all over, no direction.
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Let's go to Vermont, or let's go to whatever. Let's just go wherever
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I feel called to exactly like everyone. What are your plans? Like? I really don't make plans. It was like, Oh, I feel like I'm gonna go here next. So England. I did Scotland. I've been like to Amsterdam a little bit. I've been to Thailand so many times within the last few years. But the real thing for me was it was coming down to the line where I was going to have to make a decision. About going back to my job, because I was like, I'm just not making enough money in private practice. And because a lot of what you're hearing from people is I want to come back in person after covid ended, people wanted to come back in person. Really, my places I was advertising mostly were like Psychology Today my website, and it was like, it would do okay. And then crickets, like, I've had like, eight months of nothing from Psychology Today. Yeah. So I was starting to panic a little bit. That's when it came down to Okay. I knew like I was using Instagram, but I wasn't using it as I'd heard other people talk about using it seriously, and I wasn't using it seriously. So I was like, All right, this is it? This is your last chance. You need to, like, dive in headfirst and this whole Instagram thing, or you need to go back to your position. So that's what I did. And, like, it's been quite a journey, but honestly, how, like, Actually, I haven't even checked I think I'm at like, 41.7 1000 followers, or something like that. I
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actually checked it before we logged in. I was like, whoa. I think it's like 45,000 maybe, or something. Yeah. Well, I
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don't know if there's quite that many, but yeah, it's getting there, yeah. And it grows, like, quite quickly. And yeah, so that it in itself, has been like, probably 98% of our clients come from there, and I say our because of that, I have now been able to bring on four associates into my practice. So I hear I was a struggling kind of solo gal, and it just this time last year. I think I just hired my first one this time last year, but before that, it was just me. And so between this time and now, four people have come on, and things have just blossomed, and it's really exciting. So I'm a believer in social media marketing. Yes,
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absolutely. Oh my gosh, when you say associates are, I don't know, like the terms in Canada, as well as I do the US, is that pre license, or pre, like, after masters, before licensure, or just they're, they're
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all licensed. Yeah, they're independent contractors. I don't know if that'd be the same in the US. Yeah,
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amazing. That's so exciting. Oh
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my god, yeah, yeah. So
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you just keep, like, really using your social media, and as soon as one gets full, you just bring another person in, and you're like, slowly or quickly, actually, scaling your practice up. It sounds it happened
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almost the I mean, it was, I was just gonna happen the opposite. And I don't know if I know if I know what people talk about is manifesting, but one of the things that I was noticing, like, when I decided to bring someone else on, I wasn't even full at that point, like I was getting their ish, but I wasn't full my vision or my dream was I wanted to have this wraparound service where, like, I work with betrayal trauma, and I work almost solely with betrayed partners, and so I wanted somebody else who I could be referring the other half of the partnership to, or somebody else who could do work with couples, because couples, working with couples, is not my jam. So I thought, Well, I'm just going to bring someone else on. And I was like, maybe I'll have one or two people for them. I made sure I said to her, this can't be like, you can't have expectations that this is going to be your source of ink. Like, I need you to have another job. This is just going to be a little tiny side gig, and yeah, like, then, then we wanted to, or thought about third person coming on so we could almost have that whole the three of us, one person doing working with the couple, one person working with one half of partnership, and one person working with the other half. Wow. But then from there, it just, yeah, it was growing so fast. I just kept bringing them on.
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That's amazing. Oh my gosh, congratulations. That's really cool. Thank you. So do you have any strategies for the social media piece for people that are listening? Oh yeah, I'd love to hear a little bit about even my own Instagram. I cannot get it off the ground. It drives me crazy.
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Yeah, it's one of those things. I have some friends. I'm one of helping to and I talk about it, is it just like one of those things, it's not working until it does work. I had to be really consistent with this, so I did a lot of research. Like, I get a lot of questions, Oh, do you have you hired someone to do your social media for you? And I'm like, No. Like, I do it all myself, and I actually love it, like it, I've almost found it's become a creative outlet for me, which I didn't even realize I was missing until I had it. Yeah, I just did a lot of research, and I also thought about what I like to see as a social media consumer. Like, what have I drawn to? What? Who are the people that I really like to follow? I think the first thing that I really noticed that helped, and this was something I was resisting for a long time. And I think this is said a lot, just in private practice in general, is niche down, and I was really resistant to niching down, because I was afraid that would limit me so much. I was like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't think that I should do that. And then finally, I was just like, You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a try. Because I heard some podcasts. I wish I could remember which one, but they basically said, If your child has anxiety, but when you get online, what do you look for? Like you're not picking a generalist, you're picking a specialist in children with anxiety. And I'm like, Yeah, that's so true. I want somebody who knows this inside, out and back. Words and like, I really passionate about betrayal, trauma from some of my own personal experiences. And I'm a certified sex addiction therapist. I'm a sort of, I'm a candidate as a certified partner trauma therapist. Always a mouthful, yeah, and yeah. So that was like, like, that's what I'm going to pick as my niche. And so that's what I did. And not only, you know was niching help in that sense. But it actually was easier to create content, because before that, I was like, I don't really know what to talk about today. Oh, like, it was almost too big and too overwhelming. But when I niche down, I had, it was so much easier for me to think, oh, I should talk about this today. I should talk about this today. So, yeah, niching is huge.
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That's amazing. Yeah, and do you, I briefly looked at your Instagram before we hopped on, but do you talk about your nomadic lifestyle too in there, or is it just all about, like, the work that you do?
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I I'm really open about it, yeah, because that was one thing. Like, I'm a believer in, again, having your sort of ideal client, like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna provide the best service that I can with somebody who really, like resonates with me. Oh, and also, I started off initially thinking, Should I be like, maybe just not telling people that I have this lifestyle? But it got really stressful again, with Wi Fi issues and even my background changing, right? People notice that stuff. Yeah, right. Want to lie about it. So I was just like, You know what? This is who I am, and this is what I do. And I find a lot of the clients that want to work with me, I think it's inspirational, and they're just excited and they like and some of them have even started doing it on their own that could, like, the kind of nomadic lifestyle. So, yeah, I'm like, if it's not for them, they can find a more traditional therapist that's working in a clinic.
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I love that too, especially with your niche too. Like working with the betray, the one that's been betrayed. It's probably, I would have been a lot of talk around, let's start your life over. What do you want to do now? Now, I would imagine it's so inspirational, like solo traveler other countries, take your make your practice remote, you know, your job remote, or whatever like that's got to be so inspirational to people that have just gone like this serious betrayal. I would imagine like having that self disclosure is probably super, like, helpful clinically, you know,
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I would and actually that was what really like I when I had gone through, like, my own significant betrayal. I That was when I went on the trip to Thailand. The first trip that I had done to Thailand was about two, I think, two months after, and it was such a huge piece of my healing and learning that I was like, capable of doing because I always I wasn't traveling because I was too afraid. I didn't think I could do it. I could not be one of those people, like, I could never do that. I could never find a plane alone. I was saying that, like, I just couldn't even fathom it. And now, and I'm actually terrified of flying. I have real fear of planes, and I fly all the time. I actually prefer flying alone now as opposed to flying and I really credit, honestly, like going through such a challenging period of my life, like the travel piece, for helping me figure out who I am. And so again, that's why I talk about that so much on my social media.
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I love that. Yeah, that's so cool. And then I did notice on your social media too, you have a whole other side, like you have products. Basically, I don't know if it's a membership or a course or what it is, but I'd love to talk about that too, because, as we said, it's nice to have other income coming in where you're not tied to that, like one to one client model. You've got the group practice thing going, and now you've got this other thing going, which is so awesome to me. I'd love to talk about that too, and how you came about that, and how that works in your life, and all of that.
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Absolutely. Yeah. So I just barely recently launched an online membership program, like subscription based for betrayed partners. It's called solo seekers collective, and really it's just meant to be an online community for betrayed partners to come and kind of support one another. So there's, there's two tiers. There's just, like, forum, kind of Facebook style, where they can come and asynchronously, I would just chat with and support one another, and I'll be on there too monitoring, and I'll offer some different resources or things like that. And then we have the live support tier where, like, we're meeting about three times a month, a zoom call, just again. It's just support. That's all we're doing now, to do some psychoeducation and stuff like that. But it's not group therapy. It's open to anybody. And that came to be because I was just hearing so much from partners that like nobody understands, like nobody in my life understands, it's how I felt, too, and I just can't find anyone to talk to that's not giving me unsolicited advice, or kind of, I'm feeling shame by some of the stuff that's being said, and, yeah, I wanted to create space. Actually, at this point, it's not like what I'd call a moneymaker, but it's more it's like a passion project.
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Yeah, oh, that's amazing. Because I'm sure I don't know how like licensing and all that works, but like in the US, we can only, like, even see clients that are in our state of licensure. But yours is just psychotherapy. So doing the coaching psychotherapy model, especially with an Instagram that's like, blowing up like, yours is it's just like a perfect container, because you've got your niche client, and then now it's like, now I'm going to offer you this support community. Come on in and. Just like, just have it right there for them, for support. That's so awesome. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah. And it was important to me that was accessible. That was a big thing too, right? Because even though it doesn't replace therapy, and we're clear about that, this is not meant to be a replacement for therapy, it was still like, just because somebody can't access therapy doesn't mean that they shouldn't be able to access some kind of support. And so that's what I was really hoping it could be. Oh,
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that's, yeah, I just love that cool. So what are you doing now? What are your travel plans? Is it still I don't know where I'm going to be next week, or how,
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how? Not really. I guess I'm actually in England right now. I'm hosting. I use trusted house sitters. And so I've been not a lot like this is really only my second one. My first one was in Canada, and so I just arrived in England. What was it only a week ago? Now, I think it was. And so I have this one and a couple other house sitting jobs. I guess you call them lined up. It's not jobs. Yeah, you don't get paid for it, which I also heard is really important to be clear about like, you're not getting paid for it because in there you can run into visa issues. So I think that's just important for people to know that. I've heard about that lately, but yeah, I really like it, because there's so many different opportunities all over, mostly Canada, US and the UK. I've seen there's a few other places that offer, like, some hosting opportunities. But yes, that's where I am, and I'll be here till about mid November, and then, like, I don't know where I'll be, because I've got some different possibilities. I was thinking of Thailand again, but I also am launching a retreat in April in Guatemala. So
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I have not yet been to Guatemala, so I need to get my butt there and do a bit of a research trip. So I'm thinking of maybe doing that as well. Oh, that's
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so cool. So this, will this be a betrayal, trauma type retreat for people that, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, betrayal, betrayal, healing retreat. I
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haven't yet come up with a name. This was only, again, a recent thing, like, I've just got the date secured. Still have yet to pay the deposit, but I'm really excited for that again, just the travel piece has been so huge at my own healing that it's something that I want to help facilitate for others. Amazing. Yeah, so
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actually, let's have you travel. Let's talk about the process and how healing it could be, and let's do a retreat to heal you. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's amazing. Love that pastor. Something else I wanted to ask you about that we were just talking about now, I can't remember. It'll come back to me. I'll be like, shoot, that's what I meant to ask her about amazing. You're just doing so many cool things, and what an inspiration. Do you work with other therapists that want help with this stuff? Or is it just strictly you're just seeing the betrayal trauma people right now and doing help with products like social media or or social media, or any kind of coaching for therapists. Just, yeah, nobody had any you do. Yeah, I
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haven't. But yeah, I mean, it hasn't. It's
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not an official thing yet either. I'm gonna kind of start doing some advertising. But I had so many people, I think this is how a lot of people get into a lot of people are like, how do you do it? Can you teach me about, like, your social media approach, and then I'm thinking, like, I should just do this, like a little bit of side coaching. So yeah, I am, like I said, so passionate about it. I have so much fun with it. There's a lot of ways that I could be better at it as well. Again, for my kind of research I've seen, one of my things is, the bigger I get, the more shy I get, and so I show my face less on social media, but I know like people love to see connect you with you that way, and that's how it builds trust. I definitely encourage people and myself get out there a little bit more. But yeah, I would love to work with other therapists who want some of those tips and tricks on how to grow on their social media, especially because I know, as a traveling therapist, it's like, how do we bring people into our practice when we're all virtual, you know, when so many people want in person? Yes,
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definitely. Oh, yeah, I'm seeing that more and more even my own client. Are you gonna ever be back in Virginia? And I'm like, no,
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no, I'm
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ever gonna be back. Yeah? You're never gonna see me that way. Yeah, that's one thing I can say for sure, yeah, it's just never gonna happen, so don't count on it. Yeah. Thank you so much. How do people find you if they want to connect with you? Yeah? I
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mean, my website, my actual business name, is lost and found counseling services. So www, dot Lawson found counseling.com I think, can you remember my own website address? And I'm just like my Instagram? Yeah, the trail trauma therapist is my instagram name, so most people don't reach out by dm that way. Awesome. Yeah,
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we'll put it all in the show notes. You guys, if you want to go check her out and get introduced to everything she's got going on. So cool. Thank you Lindsay, for taking the time to meet with us today. Oh, thank
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you so much for having me. Kim. You're welcome. You Thank you. That was awesome. Yay. Oh, I'm
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sorry I almost brought up like, license, like, five times. Don't talk about I'm like, yeah, so that's alright,
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okay, yeah, no, it's
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totally fine. Okay, cool,
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yeah, oh, thank
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you. Honestly, yeah. This was fun. I was like, I was thinking, for like, I needed to dabble in because I'd been invited onto some podcasts. And I was like, too nervous, because some, a lot of them were more talking. They wanted me on to talk about betrayal, trauma, and that feels a little bit scarier to me, I don't know, because you're seen as, like, the expert or whatever. And I was like, yeah, no. And then I was like, I should talk to other therapists. That would be more something I'm comfortable with. So I actually do have another podcast I'm on tomorrow as well. And I just felt like, I'm like, Oh, this feels a little bit more safer introduction to it.
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I totally get it. I hate when I'm the interviewee. I much prefer to be the interviewer. Like, I still get really nervous on other people's podcasts, for sure. And I just, you just don't want to say anything that somebody's gonna not, like, you know, it's a whole thing. So I totally get it. Yeah,
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it's so different. When on my social media, I have control, right? I like something probably 80 times and edit the crap out of it. But then this, I'm like, Oh my gosh, if I say it, it's there forever.
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Yeah, totally, oh my gosh. I totally get it, yeah. And if you ever want to come back for new product or anything like that new place or information you want to share, feel free to reach out and to schedule another time. And yeah, I love that
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amazing. Thank you so much. I
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really appreciate that.
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Oh, did I break Am I break it up? I know, great, but thank you so much. I do follow you on social media, so I look forward to just seeing how you grow and congratulations. I think it's awesome. Yeah, cool. Thank
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you, Kim, thank you.
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You're welcome. And my VA will basically, with this episode will come out, and then the week after it comes out, my VA will send you like links and graphics and a reel, and on Instagram, we'll ask you to be a collaborator for the reel. If you'd like to, you can just hit collaboration it'll just pop it right onto your Instagram, and you could share it that way if
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you want to. Yeah, awesome. Oh, great. Sounds good. Thanks so much nice talking to you.