If you're a therapist contemplating transitioning into the world of coaching and entrepreneurship, this episode of the Traveling Therapist Podcast is essential for you. Discover how Dr. Shana evolved from being a traditional therapist to an influential coaching expert amid the pandemic. You'll hear Dr. Shana's firsthand account of overcoming burnout, leveraging her expertise to create multiple streams of income, and navigating imposter syndrome.
This episode is packed with concrete steps, insights on balancing regulatory concerns, and real-life examples of building a bankable brand using speaking engagements, book writing, media appearances, and more. Whether you're looking to scale your impact or pivot your career, Dr. Shana's experience and practical advice will equip you with the tools to transform your professional journey. Tune in to learn how you can serve one-to-many and truly make a massive difference!
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About Dr. Shana D. Lewis:
Dr. Shana D. Lewis, or Dr. Shana, as she is known, is a Licensed Professional Counselor, National Certified Counselor, Executive Wellness Coach and The Brand Therapist for experts and practitioners. She has a rich educational background that includes a Bachelor's degree in Psychology, a Master's degree in Counseling Psychology, and a Ph.D. in Counselor Education. As the visionary behind SDL Enterprises Education, Training, & Consulting Services, LLC, Dr. Shana brings over two decades of expertise in supporting women's mental health to a broader platform in addition to her expertise as a mental health expert.
In her latest endeavor, Dr. Shana is passionately dedicated to coaching and mentoring fellow therapists and experts in the art of leveraging their expertise and building a brand well beyond traditional practice. She is committed to helping them transition from one-to-one service to making a more significant impact by serving one-to-many. Dr. Shana's vision is to see experts emerge as speakers, authors, TV personalities, coaches, and trainers, thereby enriching the world with their knowledge and compassion and increasing their impact, influence and ultimately their income. In her Brand Therapy Academy, Dr. Shana mentors clinicians in crafting a brand that the world eagerly anticipates for their breakthrough.
Understanding the barriers that imposter syndrome can create for clinicians as they begin to scale beyond, Dr. Shana is on a mission to help therapists break free from self-doubt and step boldly into the marketplace. She encourages them to show up confidently, knowing that the world awaits their valuable contributions. Dr. Shana's coaching not only amplifies the voices of mental health experts but also fosters a community where their collective impact can reach thousands globally, changing lives and shaping a brighter future for all.
As a result of this expertise, Dr. Shana is a sought after international keynote and motivational speaker, trainer, and leader in business and the women’s empowerment and wellness space as the curator of the Self care is the New Sexy International Retreat. She delivers powerful, high energy keynotes to audiences all across the country about a variety of issues including domestic violence, women’s issues, wellness, spiritual issues, mental health issues, self-care and transformation. As a result of her expertise in these areas Dr. Shana has been featured on several media outlets including CBS, NBC, FOX, CW, and ABC as a mental health expert on LIVE with Kelly & Ryan and she is a 5 time author and 3 time Amazon Best Seller!!
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0:01
It's been such a journey. Kim and where you start is not where you finish. I feel like if we're not evolving, what's not evolving is dying. So when I continue to grow, we continue to evolve. So I, like I said, I started with executive women coaching. Man, I did that for quite a while. Loved that that was great. But what I learned over the course of time is that there were so many other ways for me to serve Hi, I'm
0:23
Kim Tolson, and I'm the traveling therapist. It's my passion to teach therapists how to navigate online private practices and multiple income streams so they can travel the world. I'm a digital nomad with a virtual insurance based private therapy practice and a multi six figure coaching business. I'm obsessed with entrepreneurship and developing tools that can help therapists live an adventurous lifestyle. In this podcast, I will discuss my journey as a digital nomad. I'll chat with other traveling therapists and help you navigate the complexities of running an online insurance based practice. I'm so glad to have you with me on this journey.
1:05
Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the traveling therapist podcast. Super excited today to have Dr Shayna here with us. She has got tons of awesome information to tell us about, but the biggest thing and it's something I hear about all the time, we talk about on this podcast all the time, is this, like idea of branching out, going outside of our shell as therapists, expanding into the world of entrepreneurship and helping people outside of the therapy room. So with that being said, Dr Shada, I always start out and I say to people, how did you go from being just a traditional therapist to a traveling therapist.
1:42
Oh, that's a great question. Kim, how did I make that transition? Really, for me, I would call it the pandemic. Yeah, if I was going to use one word, the pandemic, did it to me, as a clinician, that flipped, like everybody did, from traditional practice into a virtual space in the pandemic, and got totally burned out and said, You know what? There has got to be a different way for me to be able to serve and serve in a way that's powerful. And this ain't it literally starting to look this one's not working,
2:14
yep. So what did you do? So you so the pandemic hit, so you have to go remote. I don't know if you were in an office before that, but I guess we all got grounded at our homes trying to do online practices. And were you just over it, or just, I can't do this one to one, like, how are you feeling
2:31
overwhelmed and burnt out? Seriously? Yeah, so I was in private practice, and I have been I wasn't for 10 years before the pandemic happened, so that part wasn't new, but when I left my office, came home and worked from home that eight hours a day of client work back to back, helping people through the very same thing that I was in, trying to help them stay well. And I literally had days when I take a nap in the middle of the day, or I couldn't function like I would be almost about to fall asleep, because I just couldn't focus. It was just so much. And I don't think people understood that flipping virtually took more energy than it did to actually sit in front of people live and in an office. So I don't
3:16
think, yeah, that's so interesting, because I had transitioned in 2018 to online, only hearing you say that it's occurred to me, but not really, that it probably was way more stressful because it's I don't even know what I'm doing. How do I do this portable setup thing? Like, I've got to move it all in. I've got to figure out ways to schedule people differently, get them technology involved with all the links and everything. It is a big deal. Yeah. And then to do it, like, in a month, unprepared, not even maybe one of yeah, not
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at all. Is like, Ready or not, everybody better go, Okay, and here we are, and just kind of manage clients energy and understand what was going on. And if folks were extremely depressed and anxious, it was a lot to do through a screen. Yeah, when many of us never did that before, that was our first introduction to it, because none of us even thought about that. Many of us didn't think about that as a way of providing service or care. But there we were, and for me, it just I have two teenagers at the time. They were in middle school at the time, and I was a homeschool mom. We all did it. We were homeschooling. We were the bus driver, we were the cook, we was the PE teacher. It was all of it. It was just too much. It was, yeah,
4:29
oh my gosh. So you're sitting here trying to manage all this, and then is it? Was it, like, one day, it's okay, I need to figure out how to scale. This is not working. And then, like, how did that process happen for you?
4:41
So for me, what happened? So I had a coach at the time, a mentor, and she had challenged me, prior to the pandemic, actually, to start being very active on social media and going live. And so I had done that periodical, and I do 30 days at a time, I'd have a live challenge. And so when we got on lockdown, that. 90 days when nobody could leave home. Yeah, I decided to show up live every day in that 90 days to support the people. That's why I say I'm here to help the people. So I showed up every single day. Kim. I was like, it might have been 10 minutes, it might have been 30 minutes, it might have been an hour. Every day was different, but I showed up to provide and offer support. What I found when I did that is I had an overwhelming number of people reaching back to me saying, hey, Shana, we now need some help. I need this. I'm like, I pick up all y'all not like that because you live in Dakota and you live in Atlanta and you're right, yeah, yeah, I'll be your therapist. So what I did was I put those for it was women. So women is my specialty, and always has been happy. So I put those women in a Facebook group, Kim. And so my very first coaching program was an actual Facebook group that I have 400 women that were in, and I started working with them there. And really my feeling beyond journey started from that Facebook group, actually, that is
6:04
absolutely amazing. So you're just, you're like, I'm going to help, I'm going to help the people. So you just start going live, like, on your personal Facebook page, is that where it started? And then just, yeah, it's like, that law of attraction. It's like, you put that good energy out there, it's going to bring it back to you. So I just love to hear that story. And then from that, that's my story too. It's you just start talking, and then it's I've gotta create, like a container for this, yep, that I can manage, that I can figure out how to manage on my own. I still haven't mastered that part of it, but that's amazing. So the Facebook group, was it like a free Facebook group or for a coaching cohort, and then you decided to scale from there, maybe walk us through that part of the
6:42
journey piece. Yeah. So it was free, because I know what I was doing. I was just interested. But I gotta help these people. Somehow. I showed up in there. I just started helping and serving and having weekly lessons about things, about anxiety, about whatever we were dealing with at the time, nice. And then I started inviting women to get online with me to have some conversation. And I was learning women were going through so many things. We had these amazing and powerful stories. And so from there, I said, You know what? Let me curate something very specific for women who really want to deep dive into this journey of wellness, because that's what it's turned into. Was a wellness group that I began working with women who were executives or high achieving who were struggling, because what the pandemic did to me was highlighted where I was, I think, care of myself exactly, and I began to realize as I was it was wreaking havoc on my well being, that I had to do something to take better care of myself. So when I started to do that in the space of working with these other women. I'm like, I know it can't just be me if Dr al Shaina is struggling. I know my sisters are struggling in this way. So opened up the conversation around wellness, around self care. And so what I created was an executive wellness coaching program for the high achieving woman. And so then that turned into a paid coaching program where and I started, I was really just there, helping and serving everyone, and then it became more narrow as I began to see what the needs were. And over time, that has shifted multiple times, but that's where I started, for
8:13
sure. That's incredible, yeah, so let's talk about before we hit record, we were chit chatting a little bit, and you had brought up the thing that everybody struggles with going through this stuff, and that is imposter syndrome on the outside looking in, even, probably with your students. It looks, I hear this all the time, yeah, Kim, but it looks like you got it all together. You know exactly what you're doing. It. It's now in the background. I was just like, you, Dr shade. I was like, what's up? Hey, I gotta build something. I don't know what to do. So my friend Megan always says, like, build. Says, like building flying the plane as I'm building the planet. Whole analogy in the whole time, there's all this imposter stuff going on in the background. Who am I to do this? I don't know what I'm doing. I don't have a whole zoom groups for 1000s of people like all of it. So can we talk about that side of it? For you, what was the imposter syndrome like for you? And you probably have coached on this too. I'm guessing if you're with that, with the high achieving people that you're helping, I'm sure you guys talk about this. Maybe I could talk about it for the lips. Nurse, messing
9:14
up. Y'all go get your pen in your pay. Because this right here. This the money shot right here. We figure this out. Kim, we got everything else done. Yeah,
9:22
I'm still working on it. It is the
9:25
work in progress. Came to your point. But part of what I've especially for therapists, and this is because once I worked with the wellness side, and I shifted to working with therapists, because they kept asking me, how are you doing all this? About the same, I decided to create a program for therapists and having this conversation with us specifically what I kept hearing, what I keep hearing, and what I experienced was that's not what I was trained to do. Who's going to believe me? Like, how do I have anything to say? Who's going to listen to me? Who's going to pay for that? How do I bill for that? There's no CPT code for this, so I don't know what to do. The thing that we're talking about doing. And then I began to question, okay, I don't want to go to therapy jail, and I don't want to break any rules and all of these things. And I kept finding myself being pushed back in a box that says the only thing I can do is see one client at a time, and in this case, across the virtual screen, like I can't do that because it just doesn't work. Oh, no, too much for now, it's too much. And so I began dealing with all those thoughts myself. So the biggest difference for me was actually getting myself some coaching around a what it was, and I will tell you when my imposter syndrome disappeared, is when I got coaching from a mentor who was also a former therapist. Because for me, that made that was a big deal, because I needed them to understand how I think and where I come from. Yeah, and so when I began to put together a program that was based on the things that I know to work and I know to be true, and I know that support people, because I've been doing this for 20 years, Hello, yeah, I've helped 1000s of people through some really difficult times, so I know what I'm talking about, but when I put that together and I saw it work for the first time, I was like, Oh my goodness. When I my first coaching client, tell me, Dr Shana, you just don't know how much you saved my life. You don't know. Hey, this stuff translates. Y'all it translates. So how can I be an imposter when I'm the same? Dr Shana has shown up for 20 years helping all these other folks, and now all I'm doing is shifting that expertise in that genius into another frame. It's the same expertise. It's the same me, it's the same you. You're just putting it in a new frame. And so when I realized that I could call myself an expert, not because I know everything about everything, because I don't. I know enough about what I know well, and I do very well. And what I don't know, I can go ask research, get supervision on or get mentor to coach up in correct and yeah, I realized that I am an expert at what I do. Then I was able to put aside the improper syndrome, and operate in my genius, because I know I'm good at what I do. There ain't no doubt in our mind. And I know you're good at what you do as a clinician, you have been, yeah, you're right. Follows you paying back. Hello, exactly,
12:15
yeah, you better be paying back all this life and Yeah, exactly.
12:19
So lean into your actual expertise. Lean into when you think about the people you've helped over the years, when you ask a client who's at the brink of suicide or who had an attempt and had came back and you walked them through and now they're thriving. Do you think they're going to ask you think that you're an imposter for showing up a different way? No, they're grateful that you showed up absolutely, that ship him, that I had to go through, and that we all have to create that allows us to operate in this other space and understand that necessary for us to truly serve in a massive way. And
12:56
for me, it comes from that same place, that authentic place of just wanting to help and trying to remember what coach was, because I had lots of coaches too over the years to try to help me get through that part of it, to be the expert and to learn how to do that. And it's basically as long as you're coming from a place like authenticity and wanting to just share your knowledge with the world, you're going to be okay in this space, pretty much, because it's authentic. You're not in it for the money or whatever. And as you said, as therapists, we already have that innately, most of us anyway, we're not too burned out if we haven't gotten to that place where we don't want to help anybody. Yeah, yeah. I love that so much. I wanted to talk a little bit about the process from I'm a therapist, and now I'm going to be a coach. What did you have to go through to learn? Okay? How what's the difference in coaching and being a therapist, and what do you have to look out for? Because I see this every day in the traveling therapist Facebook, people like all right, I'm burned out. I'm sick of these licensure rules. I want to see clients in Portugal. So I'm going to be a coach. Now, I've decided I'm a coach, I'm not a therapist, and I'm just going to do that instead, because I'm tired of being regulated. Basically,
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14:33
What have you learned about that transition, especially helping therapists, this probably important thing that comes up in your program, I would think, is, how do I navigate that part of it? Yeah, yeah.
14:41
And that's such a great question, because we're afraid of that. I think that fear is debilitating for many of us, really, and I think it's because we we don't want to make a mistake, we don't want to hurt people, things like that. So my journey, when I decided that I wanted to make a shift into coaching, I decided to go back and get some. Coaching, training, not because anybody was going to question me, because I'm Dr Shana, they're not going to love you, but I wanted to know the fundamental differences between the two. And what I found was I went through, probably let me see, 2830 week program for coaching, specifically for wellness, because I wanted to show up in the wellness space for executive women, so I wanted to go get that training. I did not have that training as a therapist, so I knew I needed to go get that so I was very specific about coaching, training around that space. And so that was extremely helpful for me, because I understand the fundamentals of differences, of coaching and clinical therapy work, and so if you're thinking about them, what's the differences? One of the biggest things is, as a coach, I am not going backwards into people's childhoods. I'm not uncovering childhood trauma. I'm not looking at those things. I am really working with you. We're here right now. Where do you want to go from this place? We are very if you think about a therapeutic type solution, focus. Here's the issue. We're moving forward. What does that look like? The client is completely the boss here. I don't have a vested interest in what happens. And we say we don't as therapists either, but we show up with a framework as therapists, right? I was a CBT therapist by training, so I always came into the room, but that is my thought process of how change occurs. So I'm working with my clients from that framework. Now in a coaching space, I don't show up in that same way. I show up in a way there is a framework, but it's much more loose or wide for clients to show up and facilitate what makes the most sense for where they need to go. I show up with some big questions, open ended questions. We're all familiar with those kind of things, but there's a flow of the session that sounds very different from a therapy session, yeah. And so for me, I actually enjoy coaching a lot. I do, yeah, notice therapy, but I really enjoy coaching because of the freedom that clients get to have to get to their solution without me superimposing my beliefs then of what how things works on top of them, and I'm very careful if it shows that they need some clinical work, if they have an issue that is diagnosable. And I know what that means, because, course, we've been trained, then I'm going to refer you to therapy. I'm not going to walking down a path that's not appropriate. So that's how and I always make that distinction with clients, and when I show up, they will fill out informed consent that says I am working with you as a coach, not as a therapist. So there are no questions legally about me being in a space practicing where I'm not supposed to. So those are some of the big things that I've had to understand and put in place to make sure that distinction is made. One other big distinction I'll just say here is separating the businesses. There are some therapists who do have coaching in the same house. I just like to have my houses cleaned. Yeah, I want no issues. So my coaching business has a whole nother LLC. It has a whole bank account. It has its own, everything different website, like you wouldn't they're just separate. Doesn't exist as a counselor anyway, but it was separate for a reason to not have any question about it. So it was afraid of that. Understand that there are ways to create the line, and you can operate as excessively Well, successfully, without end.
18:27
That's amazing, yeah, and I personally love that line as a traveling therapist, so I can pick up clients and I want to and I don't have to worry about client and clients are more liability, right? I have to worry about suicidal ideation and all of that licensure regulations, and being a different state or different countries, sometimes it's nice to just have my coaching client that's a therapist that is pretty stable for the most part. None of us are like perfect, definitely different than the population was working with before, when I was just exclusively seeing clients only. Yeah, yep. It's a relief in a way. Yeah. So do you see clients at all anymore? You totally finished with that part and over with that. Okay, yep,
19:06
I've fired myself from my day jobs about health books. I showed up, you're fired. I said,
19:11
Okay, you got to tell me twice. Awesome. That's awesome. Oh my gosh, I love that. So we're getting close to time, but I would just love to just hear about the iterations you went through, because people, I don't think people understand, even with all of my income streams too, it starts out with an idea, and you think something's going to work, and then it's you realize the audience maybe doesn't want that or need that. So you switch to different iterations. And I just wonder, what was that process for you? Like, where did you start with your what you built and what do you have now, and then maybe you could tell everybody about what you offer now and where it evolved to I'd love to hear about that. Yeah,
19:48
it's been such a journey, Kim, and where you start is not where you finish. I feel like, if we're not evolving, what's not evolving is dying. So in order to continue to grow, we continue to evolve. So like I said, I started with executive. Women coaching. Man, I did that for quite a while. Loved that that was great. But what I learned over the course of time is that there were so many other ways for me to serve. And here's the key that I wanted to understand as therapists, the service is not one to one. It is one to many. Many of you may have heard that as a statement, but why that is powerful is because it number one, it buys you back your time, and you're no longer trading time for money, as we do in therapy. In therapy is a self pay rate was 175 or 250 for one hour. That was one person at a time, and if I want to make more money now, I gotta go add another hour open on my calendar for somebody else to give me 175 but on this side of the house, I'm able to show up and do one speaking engagement between five and $10,000 for the same hour. Absolutely. You pick which hour you on use. I always go with the one with more zeros. Okay, that's right, that's right. And it's not just the money, but think about it. You're in a space of being to serve more people. So speaking as I'm saying, this, it is the number one top of my house. When I'm thinking about there's seven, what I call them rivers of income that we have as experts and practitioners, that we can tap into. Speaking is the top of the house. If you are not speaking, you're leaving money on the table, because you can't get in front of a rule. So again, one to one versus one to 200-500-1000 to whatever big that room is, you have an opportunity to serve those people well in that same amount of time, and have a potential to earn quite a bit more for that amount of time. They can one on one, for sure. So that's one if you're writing these down, one through seven run through these. Yeah. Okay, I
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love this. Yeah.
21:36
So speaking is one. Number two is the books, if you are an expert in right now as a therapist, and you don't have a book you're leaving on the table
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because you're talking to me
21:47
right now. Okay, I'm talking to you every Okay. Expert needs a book. Why? Because people who will never come see you any other way, either. They can't afford it, they don't whatever the they can get a $20 book and they can learn from you. This is how you serve one to many. You have a book and it can sell all over the globe, right? It's powerful, but you can leverage that for a lot of other opportunities as well, too. So books is number two. Number three is going to be media. I am a fan. I am a TV girl like I love television, honey. I have been alive with Kelly and Ryan. I've been on you got a show as a mental health expert, but, and I'm tell you, there's no other way on this planet that I could have spent four and a half minutes outside of being alive with Kelly and Ryan to impact millions of people at one time. There ain't no way amazing. So as an expert in mental health, you have an opportunity to serve masses of people. Media. It could be TV, it could be radio, it could be magazine, it could be podcast. This is a media platform, social media, all of those. So you want to show up there as well, too. Number four is coaching. I already told you earlier, I'm a fan of coaching. It's a journey. You take a client from pain to a place of desired outcome, wonderful process, and you do it in a group. One too many, which is very powerful. Number five is going to be events. I'm a fan of events. I believe in having events, they don't have to be in person. You can do virtual events. We all did that in the pandemic, be at home, be online, have classes online with people who you want to serve. It's powerful. But also I love a good in person event. Share one at the end of our talk today that I'm having, yeah, but events are powerful ways to serve people and then horses. Now, courses are what I call sleep coins. You are you created one time. You create a course that people are watching. It's recorded. They can watch it, and they sleep when you're asleep, when they can wake up in the morning, they can buy the middle of the night, you wake up and you got all these little coins that have landed in your bank account like that. Nice. They were thinking about me while I was sleep. I love it's a great thing. Love that. And the last one is products. Products are amazing ways to leverage your genius. Products are going to help be aligned with the people who you want to actually serve. You give them a product that helps them on their journey. So wellness was my life side of the house. So I had a self care box. It's a it has tea, fuzzy stocks and meditation and affirmations and all that stuff inside of it. I got t shirts and all kinds of stuff, things that people can consume. Create an opportunity where your genius becomes consumable in in multiple ways. And I'm not saying y'all gotta go develop seven different things. You really are developing one brand and delivering it seven different ways,
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right? Love that
24:37
not all at the same time, but for time, I've been here for a while, right? So, yeah, what I have done very well for the last couple of years, but I help clinicians and experts start at one of those seven and then build upon those as they go. Amazing.
24:53
Oh my gosh. I love that. So is that where your program is right now? It brings them in and says, yeah. Is this, these are our pillars. Let's see which one you fit into right now. Let's build this thing. Yes,
25:04
so, so again, starting at the bottom of that, which is building your brand. So I help missions build bankable brands, and I say, Man, I love that, pinging you forward. Okay, it's not just an idea. It's something that someone is willing to invest in themselves for to get whatever the outcomes are that you provide, but you offer. Your brand is bankable because you have seven rivers of income. You have different ways that you support people to whatever the outcome is that you're hoping. So that is exactly what I do, and I help experts and practitioners do that very thing as well. Too
25:37
amazing. Oh my gosh. Tell us about your upcoming events, in case anybody wants to come.
25:43
Nick because this is the traveling therapist podcast. I know I got some folks who want to get on a plane and come on. I am going to be hosting the brand mastery mastermind, December 6 through ninth in Cancun, Mexico. We're going to the most beautiful, all inclusive resort. It is amazing. And we're going to have an opportunity to spend those three days really deep, diving into what I just talked to you about, those seven rivers of income, building your brand. And for those of you who are really like, oh, I need more. Dr Shayna, fine. We got VIP day options for that as well, too. Well, I will walk through with you, myself and my marketing team, like you're going to get a group of us that are going to really pour into you to build out your brand and your business. I'm excited about that, and we'll share the link live with folks who may be interested in learning
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more. Okay, amazing. Thank you so much. I'm excited to share with everybody, and that's I've never heard it really put into that seven pillars like that. It's so amazing to just think about. You're building this brand, and these are the ways you expand in all of it, if you can get there as amazing. Yes, have your what do you call it? Your zone of genius and everywhere. This how you leverage
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your genius and love it, deliver it in seven different ways. Yep, amazing.
26:56
So how do people find you? If they want to work with you, I
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want to invite all of you to go visit me on the brand therapy academy.com There, you'll find information about me, even about the mastermind or free gift, and some other things about who I am, what I'm doing and really working to help us show up and make power moves as clinicians in this space for sure. Oh, amazing.
27:21
Thank you so much for taking the time today. Really appreciate it.
27:25
You're welcome. Dr
27:26
Shayna, thanks a lot.
27:28
Thank you.
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