Join us in this inspirational episode of the Traveling Therapist podcast, where Tristan McBain shares her compelling journey from a conventional lifestyle to full-time nomadism. Following a series of transformative experiences, including a pivotal apartment fire, Tristan discovered that true fulfillment comes from within. She now travels the world while managing a virtual therapy practice and coaching other therapists on how to embrace a nomadic lifestyle. Discover how Tristan navigates the challenges and joys of living on the road, maintaining a relationship dynamic that allows for independent travel, and setting up a travel-friendly therapy practice.
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I am a full-time traveling nomadic therapist and coach. I had just graduated with my PhD and was on a national job search when the pandemic hit. My life as I knew it changed but I eventually saw there was an opportunity to build toward something I wanted even more. At the end of 2021 I left my home state to begin traveling full time. I eventually started my own virtual private practice, where I specialize in couples and sex therapy, and just recently started my journey into coaching for digital nomads.
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00:00
Hi everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the traveling therapist podcast. Super excited to have Tristan McBain with us here today. She has a really cool story, and she's doing a lot of what I'm doing in my life. So it's cool to talk to a fellow person moving in the same path and exploring this adventurous lifestyle we have, and also we'll talk about it, but adding some coaching in and that sort of thing. So I think that's really I think that's really cool. Tristan, thank you so much for being here. I always start out and I just say, so how did you go from being a typical therapist to a traveling therapist? Yes, so
00:33
thank you for having me. I was one of those people that knew pretty early on that I wanted to be a therapist, and I knew I wanted to specialize in couples and sex therapy, so I started college with that being my goal. And in 2014 I graduated with my master's, and I started my career. So it's been about 10 years now that I've been in the field, and I also knew from a young age that I wanted to have a PhD. So for many years of my life it was a balance of being a graduate student, being a part time therapist, usually working at least two jobs. I'd work one day at one place, one day at another. And for many years, my life was this mix of work, school, sleep, repeat pattern where I'm juggling like classes, teaching, grading, research, Writing, Publishing, all of these things, and I was always having to be somewhere. There would be some weeks where I would put between three and 500 miles on my car, just commuting, yeah, all of these places that I needed to be, I was grinding right? And it was like that for many years. But I really didn't mind it. I truly loved what I did. I loved teaching. I loved being a therapist, like my heart was so at home, but I'm doing all of these things. It was a complete yes woman,
01:51
yeah, oh yeah, I did relate absolutely
01:54
and so on top of everything else, of course, there's a lot of pressure, there's a lot of academic politics to navigate, but I eventually graduated with my PhD, and my plan was to go into academia. So I wanted a tenure track position, I wanted to teach, I wanted to continue my research, and I figured I would probably have a small private practice on the side. And while I was waiting for the next round of interviews to start for that next academic year, I was full time at a community mental health job that I had been working at for about six or seven years. At that point, I started a national job search. It was going really well. I had been given three offers, and I had several more interviews lined up, and it was March of 2020. Of course, yes. So the pandemic came and the remainder of my job search was canceled. I suddenly had gone from having all of these career prospects, where's my first academic position going to be, to all of a sudden having zero job prospects. And then I was furloughed from my community mental health job. So here I was. It had been a few months since I graduated, so I'm still going through this transition out of being a career student, because I'd been in school forever, and then I suddenly found myself at home for about six weeks, and I had nothing to do, like in my mind, I had nothing to do. I had no clients to see books, to read, no assignments, to complete classes, to prep for, like nothing. And so it felt like it was gone, right? Like my life as I knew it had really changed. And so after some time of being home and getting some distance from like, everything that had been my life, I started to become really aware of the extent that I had been so burnt out and really had just been in flight mode trying to stay on top of everything, like for so many years. Wow, yeah. And then so very quickly, my entire life, my future, everything that I had spent the last like 10 plus years of my life preparing for. All of the sudden, it was very unclear of what the future held, and that had never happened to me before. I was always one of those people that knew five years my trajectory plans for pandemic to come in and interrupt the whole thing exactly, yes, initial weeks after the pandemic, I'm home, I'm going from newly appointed doctor to full time dog fetcher, and yeah, it felt like the rug had been like pulled out from under me. It felt like a loss of some kind. There were parts of who I was that I just I didn't know what was going to happen with that. I didn't know what was going to happen in terms of the future, and it feels crisis is too strong of a word, but it's the best way I can describe what I was experiencing, which was like an identity crisis. But I think what was really interesting about that time was the crisis actually came because I had this realization that I wasn't that. Free to see it all go like the relief that I felt in these weeks of being home and away from these sources of what I was realizing was extremely significant stress. It just it felt so different. But that was really scary, because I truly loved being a therapist. I loved what I did, and at the time, I didn't really know what all of that meant. I didn't know how to reconcile that, or how any of it would play out. So that was the catalyst that set everything that followed into motion. Oh
05:33
my gosh. Isn't that just amazing sometimes that the things that come out of, I don't know, tragedy, crisis, whatever, like, major life upsets, and it's, oh my gosh, look what I've been doing for all this time. I was the same way. It was like 3040, clients a week, cramming them in, trying to take vacations. That I realized I could be online. But then when the pandemic hit, it really did. It was like, Okay, we could be locked in forever, like, we're gonna have to figure out how to do all of this online, or something like, how are we going to make money? It's just for all of us, but hearing your personal perspective of it, and then right after you finish your PhD and all that stuff, that's, oh my gosh, how long did you work for that? And then it's now going to Yes, a big
06:13
part of it was a lot of the ambiguity and a lot of the uncertainty, because it was really hard. Like I said, I'd always had things planned out. I always had a vision. Had some kind of sense of what is the direction I'm going to go, and that really had been gone for a period of time, yeah,
06:29
oh my goodness. So what happens then you're, like, in this crisis, but it's Wait a minute. This isn't so bad.
06:36
But yeah, good thing, yeah. So eventually, like, by the end of the summer of 2020, I had pretty much reconciled that I was not moving out of state for a job, at least not right then, but I did still move on from the Community Mental Health job that I had been working. So I started at a group practice virtually, and that was my first experience with virtual therapy, and I loved it to this day. I love working from home. It is my gym. I love every single thing about it and but there were some problems that I encountered, though, because, for instance, I'd never worked from home before, so I had no concept of boundaries with like, my schedule, right? So I'd see a few clients in the morning, a few in the afternoon, and then a handful in the evening, I was working these really long days. I was seeing 25 to 30 plus clients a week, and I was telling myself that I was okay with it, because I was at home and I was enjoying being at home so much. But what I really didn't realize at that time was like my body hadn't had a chance to reset, and so I was still in flight mode and burning myself out just as quickly working from home as I ever did when I was a student or an in person therapist, and at the time I didn't really know it. So I'm working and October of 2020, comes along, and this is a really like, kind of transformative time for me, because I had a nine year relationship that officially ended at the beginning of that month, which was really difficult for me, and then about three weeks later, I lost my home in an apartment fire. So during that event, I actually woke up. It was about 317 in the morning, I remember the clock saying that, and there were firemen and policemen breaking into the apartment shouting at me to get out. The lights came on. Apartment was filled with smoke, and I
08:32
was like goosebumps right now, just here. Yeah, it was.
08:35
It was an incredibly scary and devastating experience. I was incredibly lucky, because my actual apartment didn't suffer any damage from the fire or the water itself was part of one unit of a four unit building, the other units around it were the ones that were most affected. I was very fortunate that I was eventually able to go back and recover my things, but I still was homeless overnight because the whole building was condemned, and it was about three weeks before I was able to go back in. There was this event that happened in the middle of all of this, because we're still dealing with the pandemic and all of these other things. There was a moment where I was sitting in my car with my three dogs. What I had with me was the clothes I was wearing my dogs and their leashes and collars, my car keys and my phone health and my neighbors were all sitting in our vehicles, and we had moved them to the back of parking lot. We were watching the buildings. There was nowhere for us to go. We sat there for about two hours just watching the building burn, watching the firemen trying to put the fire out to save our homes. I had so many moments in that where I was faced with I'm about to watch everything that I have left be taken away. I didn't really know what was going to happen. It was that moment where I realized everything. Need I have with me, right? Like I had myself, I had my dogs, and in that moment, it was such a big moment of my life, I had to make peace with what was happening, that I could lose everything, and I had to make a decision in that moment, that if that was going to happen, I would be okay, like when everything is stripped away, you really find out what you're made of, and that was the moment that I was facing. So I learned something really important from that experience. The changes that happened in my life from the pandemic itself that led to dramatic lifestyle were more logistical. My work literally went from in person to virtual, but this was the mindset the spire taught me. One of the things I say that I took away from it is that my only possession is my soul. I really started to see a greater depth of how I've always lived my life and how I saw myself in it for the bulk of my life, at that point, so much of my worth and value had come from things like what I did, what I produced, and how well I did it. And I think a lot of my stress for so long was because I lived from like, the outside in. I put some value on all of these things that were outside of me, like my degrees, my job, my research, and even things like what other people thought about me, or like, what people might say. Like, I let a lot of these external things determine how I would feel about myself on the inside. And so I really started seeing that perspective, and I put a lot of value on, like, how what was I doing and how did that look? Rather than prioritizing, how did things feel for me? Am I happy doing what I'm doing? And so the shifted me from living from the outside in to living from the inside out. It taught me that everything that I need is already inside me. It taught me that like home is a feeling that I create like inside, and it's not something that I'll necessarily find like from searching to be somewhere. And so that was the next shift that I went through, in retrospect, that prepared me for making such a big life change. Because without that lesson, I don't know if I would have ever been brave enough or trusted myself that I could live the life that I'm living now, which
12:23
I really want to talk about that too. But yeah, what a profound thing to discover. I feel like I went through a similar transformation, not through like tragedy, like a fire, but just putting everything in storage, feeling like we've got to keep all these little things and because what if, and this is the things are important, and all of that, going through that process, and then realizing two, three years later, we have this storage unit full of crap that we don't need, I don't care about at all, and really it is each new place that we land, even if it's week to week, wherever we end up, it feels like home, because we've just incorporated that into our bodies and ourselves and like our family unit, me and my boyfriend, when I say we is what I'm talking about. But yeah, we could be anywhere and just feel fine now. We don't need the stuff. We need something. We'll go pick it up at the drugstore, whatever. It's not a big deal. But not to minimize how tragic it must be to lose everything to a fire, because that's got to be terrible. I hear what you're saying. I'm relating so much, and it really is a mindset transformation that happens when you go through this process of becoming nomadic.
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Initially, it felt really traumatic to think about losing everything, but underneath, it was so liberating to realize that I really don't need any of that stuff. It's nice to have, and I can appreciate it, and it allows me to really lean into what I want and not feel guilty about it or get caught up in do I want this, or do I need it? Because what I know that, at the end of the day, what I need to have are the things that are inside right? Like, I need to, like, have that trust in myself. I need to be on my own team, like stuff like that. And I know it sounds like very philosophical but like that truly was the lesson that I took from that fire. And it was so liberating, because then I felt okay, I have everything, and I can do anything within reason, but right, with a very different perspective than ever anything I had before.
14:16
Amazing. Oh my gosh, yeah, thanks for sharing that. I love how you articulate that, yeah, because I think anybody can go either way with that. You loot like fire, loss for relationship, loss of what you had in mind for your career, all of that, you could have really gone the other way with it, really depressed and downhill and emotionally and just spiraling. I think a lot of people could, but you decided to embrace it and learn from it, and now it's empowered. You have to be where you are now, what you're doing now. And I want to talk about that, but yeah, I love it. I just love that.
14:48
I really do. Yeah, it's
14:50
like, firing.
14:50
Thank you. Yeah, once when everything was broken down, right, everything that I had been doing was deconstructed, then it was like, I had the chance for the first. Time to really think about, what do I want to recreate without the influences of, say, my parents? Well, you have to go to college or society saying, Okay, the next thing is for you to have a house or something like that. Like it really allowed me the space to think about, okay, if I'm starting from scratch, then I've got me and these dogs. What is it that we want to be doing? Yeah, so I can share more about kind of making the decision, and kind of what came next after the fire, I continued working. I was at that virtual practice, and eventually I went on a trip in summer of 2021 it was a tiny, mini vacation to hocking hills, Ohio, if
15:41
you've ever been Wow. No, beautiful. My sister is there right now. Is that a state park? Yes, that is wild. My sister, like, literally, she's on vacation and sent pictures of like, I've never even heard of this place, but it's so pretty, it's a magic so, wow,
15:57
yes. So it was actually my first vacation Since 2018 so it was well overdue, not even just since covid, but yeah, so it's well overdue, and I was very burnt out from just being a virtual therapist during covid. I was exhausted, but I'm on this trip. And it was one of those quick weekend trips where you get there on Friday and then you leave on Sunday, kind of deal. And I just remember having this moment on Saturday morning where me and my partner at the time had gone together, and we had booked a canoeing excursion that morning, and we are in the water, and we are paddling as fast as we can, because we have this time crunch of we wanted to go canoeing, and we wanted to do this hike, and we wanted to go on that hike, and we want to go here for dinner, and we're trying to cram all of these things until the 36 hours that we were going to be there. And I just had this moment of being on the river where it was soul crushing to just waited so long for a vacation, and then to just rush through it, to get back to a job that was burning me out again, and it just felt so unfair. So we were driving home from that trip, and it was on that car ride home where I said, I wish I could live like I was on vacation every day. That was my thought at the time, but that was the moment where I realized, okay, I don't have a house. I don't have children. My work is virtual, and it's funny because I used to say, like, back when I was younger, that if I was rich, I wouldn't even own a house. I would just travel from place to place. Like, I didn't even know the word Nomad existed, but I would just to people like, this is my ideal life. But I share that because it really was on this level of, like, fortune and fame, like, yeah, wildest fantasy, like hitting the lottery. That's nice to fantasize about, but that's that's never going to happen for me. And so it was in this moment where I had this realization, holy cow, maybe I could actually make this happen. And that was another, like, very liberating moment, because I'm the kind of person that once I decide to do something like it's fun, then it's just a matter of, okay, you work backwards, and what do I have to do today to get me closer to that goal? After that, things happened fairly quickly, because I had made that decision. There was, like, a clear before and after. I had decided to start traveling full time, and I didn't know how, when what things were going to look like. I just knew I was going to do it. So about a month after I got home from that Ohio trip, I put in my three month notice at that job that I had been working at. My last day of work was in November of 2021 and I left my home state of Michigan about a month later, just a few days after Christmas, I packed everything that I could fit into my Corolla. If it didn't fit, I didn't take it. My dogs were included in that car, so I did not have a lot, but I took my dogs and I got a roommate in Denver, and I stayed in Colorado for about four months. That was my first place that I went and I moved on from there, even when I took the leap and I quit my job and I had left, I didn't have my practice established yet. I didn't do that a couple months later. Looking back on it, I don't necessarily recommend that for everybody, but you appreciate the bravery in myself that it took for me that change, because I figured it out as I went. And if I had waited until I felt like I had everything figured out, I probably would have never done it.
19:30
Totally relate to that, yeah, because it's too hard to plan for the logistics, and it's more like you have to live one day at a time. I know that's a cliche, but really, you can plan a trip, but things are going to happen every time something's going to get canceled, or the weather or whatever family member you have to come back for something. There's something that's always going to come up. So I just love that spirit. Just do it. Just take off. Did you put anything in storage? Or you were just like, No, I'm just taking this car and the dogs and I'm done. Sure. Yeah,
20:00
so that was pretty much what I did. I didn't put anything in storage. So at that point, I had moved a few times during covid and with the apartment fire, I was displaced for a couple months while I was waiting for another apartment and stuff like that. So what I owned had dwindled over 10 and I really didn't have that much. I think the thing that was hard to leave behind was my plant collection. I had about, oh yes, 40 to 50 plants that ended up going to my mom. So those were the items that I ended up putting in storage. But really, my mom just took them into her collection.
20:38
Oh my gosh. Oh yes, I could relate to that. I had so many plants that I'd have for 20 or 30 years. I'm like, I love this plant so much, but you find good homes for them, and I know they're still thriving in other places. Yeah, me too. I can relate to that so much. Yeah. So you had mentioned a partner for the Ohio trip. How, if you feel like talking about it. How did the partner come or not go. You mentioned a remade in Colorado and all this stuff. So did you have to break up to pursue this, like, passion that you just had to go do this? Or, like, how
21:08
did that go for you? Just out of curiosity. So my partner and I, we've been together about five years, and we're both very independent people, and so there have been times like during that where, like, we've lived together and we've lived separate, and even so, when we came back from that hocking Hills trip, the conversation had been like, what would this look like? And so interested in the lifestyle as well. And he actually ended up selling his house, and we traveled, sometimes we traveled together and sometimes we would travel separate, yeah, but yeah. So I didn't have to leave the relationship to do this, but I also didn't have to stay within, like, really firm parameters of, okay, this is what our relationship has to look like, and we have to make all of these decisions together. So I think over time, we found a really good balance with how can this work for both of us, and also just overall, have the freedom to do what we want to do, while also being able to share some of these experiences together? Yeah? Oh, I
22:12
love that. Yeah. That's such a good message, because I run into that all the time, like with the coaching and the traveling therapist course and all of that stuff, that's a huge component. What do I do with my significant other? They they want to do this. They don't want to do this. They can't because of this or that, or we have family, family holding us back, like all of those things come up when a lot of people don't, don't do it because of that stuff. So I love that message. Let's talk about it. We don't have to have this traditional thing all the time, and I can still live the life that I want to live. I love that.
22:41
Yeah, and I think that what you're saying about like that tradition is really important, and it was a big part of my story, too, because I've always lived a little bit outside of, like, society norms, in terms I knew I didn't want to have children from a pretty young age, and I was always pretty vocal about that. I've never owned a house. I never really wanted to do, like some of those, like more traditional type of things, but I think that is one of the biggest lessons that I've taken away as well, is that I think that everybody has to make their own decision for themselves, and that it's okay if what you want to do or how you want to live looks outside of the norm, because The norm is set What's there for a reason, and it's set by something or someone, but just because it's there, it doesn't mean that you have to abide by that. If you're able to step back and really think about what's best for me and what is it that I want, it might look a little non traditional, but that doesn't mean that it's less than it just means that it's different. Because I certainly wouldn't say that my relationship is, like, less valuable than Yeah, pulses, just because sometimes we spend time apart actually, like, works really well, so sometimes it's really good. I can't agree with that. Yeah, and I don't think that's right for everybody, but yeah, my point is just that you have to do what's right for you, and if what's right for you is a little different than what's right for most people. Like, that's still okay, yeah, I
24:07
love that so much. That's amazing. So where are you now? Like, how are you navigating this now? Are you doing, like, slow travel in places? Are you, like, getting roommates for six months? Like, how are you making the whole thing work right now in your life? Yeah,
24:22
my sweet spot is I tend to stay about three to five months somewhere, okay, less than three months to meet like I really like to get to a place and explore it and do all the touristy things, and then I like to do all of the local things, all of the little hidden stuff. And so I find that three months, anything less than that, I feel like I'm rushing myself. And anything longer than five months, I just I get a little stir crazy. That tends to be like a good mix for me and sometimes my partner, he has an RV but he tends to work camp, so like, for right now, he's staying at a spot for seven. Been months, and sometimes I'm here in the RV, and other times I will go out and I'll Airbnb or find a roommate or something like that. So for example, there was a time where I don't remember if it was last year or the year before, but we were in Vegas, and we were going to be in Vegas for a little bit longer than I was ready to go with the weather, it was so hot. So I ended up going to Portland for about three or four months, and then we ended up back up after that. Yeah, so that's how I've traveled up until now. So one of the things that I'm doing by the end of this year is I'm actually going to get my own trailer and yeah, so I'm going to go all in on getting, like, a vehicle to tow and a trailer for myself, and that's going to be my next chapter. So hopefully I'll have that going by the end of this year.
25:50
That is awesome. Yeah, that's really cool. I always love on those the different nomadic groups, when people post their travel trailers and they have them all decorated, and they're just so cute. I
26:00
love those. I've always wanted one, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm really excited to see how it's gonna turn out, and have something of my own to decorate. And yeah, that's
26:11
so fun. So do you mainly just stay in the United States? Is that kind of your thing? Or have you gone out of the country and all of that? Or is it right now
26:19
it's been mostly more of the US. A couple of reasons for that. One, it's really hard for me to it's been hard for me to travel and like, plan travel abroad with my dogs. That's one thing. So my loose general plan is, I'm going to get my truck in my trailer, and then I'm going to focus on us travel, and then I'm going to do a broad travel in terms of, like, actual vacation. So that's the other thing I do is, oh yeah, three to five months in one place, but I'll still take trips. So even, like this year, I went on a trip to Miami and Key West. Last year for my birthday, I did go to I went to Mexico, and that was my first solo trip out of the country by myself. So I do a lot of solo travel, and that's probably how I will incorporate more of my international travel over the next couple years, like the foreseeable future, but down the road, big picture, when it's just me, when my dogs someday are gone, I've thought about doing some Nomad travel abroad, so we'll see what happens. Because I definitely think that's in my future. I'm just not sure when. Yeah,
27:28
oh, that's so fun, though. I just love them, not even knowing this is my general, loose idea where we might be. But that could totally change, at least. That's how our lives have gone so far. It's what people be here for six months. No, we're not even going now it's totally changed.
27:42
Yeah, it's funny because I've had some friends in the last couple weeks message me, and they're like, how long are you going to be where you're at? When's the next thing? And I'm like, I don't know. Where are you going? And I'm like, I don't know yet. They're like, this doesn't sound like you.
27:58
That's great. I love it, though. Yeah. So what are you doing practice wise, is it private practice? The sex therapy, and I guess using your PhD in some capacity, I'm assuming, in private practice?
28:10
Yeah. So in 2022 I started a virtual private practice where I specialize in couples and sex therapy. So that's been an amazing adventure. I really can't underline enough how much I love being a therapist. I just love the work that I do. It's so fulfilling and so enriching for me. Yeah, I've really been putting a lot of my heart and soul into building my practice over the last couple years and getting that to a place where now I'm offering couples therapy intensives, and I'm actually planning for 2025 I'm actually going to niche my practice down even more to just working with couples. Right now, I work with individuals as well, but my goals for my practice are to really niche down, do great work with couples who need the help and continue to serve my community in the state of Michigan,
29:03
it's amazing. Yeah, and you're probably just such a fantastic relationship therapist, because you have such an open mindset around setting the boundaries, how you need to set them to make the relationship still work. So I'm sure you're a very good role model to your clients, yeah, I think that's really neat. So I'm assuming, with the Michigan license. You can be anywhere, as long as your clients are physically in the state at the time of the service. Is that how it is for your license? Okay? Perfect, correct? Yep, nice. So let's talk about the other part of it, because you're also branching out into the coaching world, the nomadic coaching world. So I'd love to just talk and share about that a little bit too for everybody listening. Sure. So
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this year, I founded my coaching business, which I'm really centering around this newfound passion that I've developed for helping other women therapists build their own virtual practices so that they can travel as they please. Uh, essentially pieces of the work that I do really focus on helping you build your virtual practice, and then also that mindset piece. And so I talk a little bit about, like, the travel and things like that. But there's so many personal factors that can influence how somebody travels that my like, the coaching I do really focuses on, all right, what's the mindset that you need, and how can we set you up with your practice or your business and essentially income that can be consistent over time, regardless of where you're at, or are you just doing extended travel versus are you living nomadically, or maybe there's a change you want to be closer to family for a period of times. All of these things are possible with the program that I offer. Because at the end of it, what you have is, you have your practice and a mindset that is going to, you know, help you just really indulge in more of that travel and have more of those other pieces that you want. So I really, I think of it as the this idea of funding your dream life of travel with work that fuels your soul, yes, with work that you are empowered by and that you love to do. Because I really found that is something that's true for me, there's been this very beautiful relationship between like, how I've built my practice in my work with the lifestyle that I'm living, because I feel so invigorated and just alive with the lifestyle that I have, and I know that translates and comes into my work with my clients. Without that, like that's my lifeblood. Without that, I wouldn't be able to do the lifestyle that I'm so passionate about and that I love so much, so it really just cultivates a passion for what I'm doing on both sides of it, and that has truly been a gift that I did not experience before, that I've had and that I've created for myself at this point. And that's part of my passion, was sharing that with other therapists and helping other women who are inspired by that and want that for themselves.
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I love it. Love it. Love it, love it. Yeah, so good. So how do people find you they want to work with you or talk to you more about your program and what you have to offer to help other female therapists or even male therapists if they want to do this life that we're living? Yeah, absolutely. You
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can find me on Instagram. My handle is iwander. What's next? Dot LLC? Yes, that's the name of my company. And then I also have a Facebook group. And the Facebook group is called the nomadic therapist. Build your practice for a life of ultimate freedom, and you can join this group if you are a woman therapist who's interested in the lifestyle. We want to keep in touch with me. Group. I do a live every week. I have free resources available, and it's really just a resource for other people who are curious about this lifestyle and they want to know, how do I build a practice that's location independent, so that I can travel more.
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I love it. Thank you. Thanks so much for sharing and coming out and talking about this, and you guys go check her out, and we'll have all the information in the show notes, if anybody wants to look in there and find more information about how to reach out to Tristan. Thanks for being here.
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Thank you so much. You.